Collant Pipe Leak Identification & Connector Identification

[Dirk Schooner]

Hi, I have recently aquried a Bongo, I love it. Also spent a lot of time looking throught this forum, and it's helped laods, (especially in finding the jack handle!).

OK, this is why I am posting:

I noticed the other day, I have sprung a leak, before I could identify the pipe, I bought a set of 4 blue silcone ones, but have now discovered the leak in what appears to be a short pipe about 10cm long with a bore of something like 8mm connected to the trurbo unit at one side and top of tehrmostat at other. Just wanted to identify this pipe exactly and check it's size before I order any more parts? Picture are taken form pasenger side inspection cover, front of vehicle to left.





I know I will have to drain system and might as well replace the larger pipes I bought also, plenty of post on that subject here. I have the 'Serivce Manual' also, so should help.

The temp guage is dead (liek that when I bought it) and I have noticed a connector hanging from the underside of the vehicle on dirvers side, i wondered if this might be the connection for temp guage, but might be wishfull thinking, Pictures bellow:





Finally, the vehicle drives fine, but, over rough surface or, potholes ets, I have noticed a knocking/banging sound form the front suspension area, mainly passengeer side but could be both. It's as if some rubber is worn and things are banging when they should be cushioned. I don't know if this is common problem or if it is just normal sound and I am beign paranoid. Sounds a bit loose to me though.

[Rhod]

Dirk
Hello & welcome!
Can't help with your questions on hose size, or the temp gauge I'm afraid (but no doubt someone who can will be along shortly!).

Knocking noise sounds like the anti-roll bushes have gone - a common Bongo problem & one that's easily & cheaply fixed. Plenty of posts on how to do it & where to source the cheapest bushes if you do a search.

Rhod

[francophile1947]

Knocking could also be droplinks - again a common problem (they're all old when we get them ) but cheap to fix.
Like Rhod, I've no idea about the hose or gauge wire.

[brorabongo]

Hi and welcome Dirk Schooner

Sorry don't know about the leak or connection....yet, but the noise when driving does sound like it could be the front drop links, which has been known to be a straight forward DIY job, if your nuts aint seized.

Drop link threads.............

http://www.igmaynard.co.uk/bongo/forum/ ... mit=Search

[mikeonb4c]

The hose looks to me (not that I'm an expert) like you could replace it with a straight length of whatever diameter hose it is,as it doesn't seem to have much if any bending to do. Give a local motor factors a call to get on the case maybe?

If tracking down temp gauge becomes a problem, why not kill two birds with one stone and fit a (more useful) engine block temp gauge unit. Currently £70 or more to purchase the Aussie TM2 kit but BF member Haydn Callow (who sells the low coolant alarm - hope you've got one of those fitted - essential insurance) is talking about a deal with the Aussies that will bring the price down. PM him if interested.

Oh and welcome!

Mike

[vanvliet]

Post the pic to Flippa ( he sells the silicon pipes on Ebay ) I am sure that he will identify your pipe and if you are lucky it might be one of the second batch of (I think) six pipes he is about to release for sale ( nine are available at present)

[flippa]

Dirk i will put a few bits in the post in the morning ...may get you out of trouble in the meantime i will try and id the pipe ive had a quick look but no joy....im suspicious of it because of the creases on the hose? they should not be there(even if twisted) hmm

[Dirk Schooner]

Dirk i will put a few bits in the post in the morning ...may get you out of trouble in the meantime i will try and id the pipe ive had a quick look but no joy....im suspicious of it because of the creases on the hose? they should not be there(even if twisted) hmm

Thank's for replies, this is great of you all.

I've had another look, and I am sure it's from water pipe on turbo to the top of the thermostat housing, going by the pictures in manual. You are right it is sort of twisted and kinked, and that's where it has gone on one of the bends, looks orignal though, (as bad as the toher ones).

This is my only vehicle, so don't want to take off to measure before I have to do the whole job. Don't fancy buing a meter length.

As for droplinks, think I will go for these 'heavy duty' ones, as I like it rough....
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Mazda-Bongo-front ... dZViewItem

And just to be clear I can drive up a set of car ramps and exchange these with wheels on, I read the other posts, mike epc. and just not sure if its axel stands or ramps?
(I have just sprayed with WD40 and will attempt in couple of days).

Screwfix seems to have great value car ramps and going to need them for coolant also
http://www.screwfix.com/search.do;jsess ... ps&x=0&y=0

That mystery connector wire thing is sitll puzzling me, and the Service Manual is not really much help.

And I suppose I do need to be monitoring the engine temperature so will look into those things mikeonb4c

Thank's again for responses everybody.

[Simon Jones]

The pipe you refer to could probably be replaced with the correct diameter from Halfords. I don't think you need a 'shaped' one to fit. With regard to the connector, the plug does not look like the one that fits the temp sensor on the side of the head. Most wires on the Bongo engine are not blessed with much slack, so I would suggest taking hold of the plug, pull the wire taught, then move the connector round in an arc from where the cable comes from. Sooner or later, you should find a matching connector to plug it in. To me, it looks like the one that joins on to another connector close to the injector pump.

[vanvliet]

The engine on the Vincent motorbike was always referred to as the 'Plumbers Nightmare' .As I come across more pics of the host of connections and pipes on the Bongo the description seems to apply to the Mazda engine too

[Ralph]

The pipe looks like the one from the head to the turbo, the turbo
is water cooled and that looks like the supply pipe, would think any
bit of pipe that will fit will do as long as it can stand hot water
at about 15psi, the connector looks like one of the auto gear box
ones there are 3 up between the gear box and fuel tank, a scrabble
on your back with a torch under the car is called for.

Hope this helps

[mayk19]

The engine on the Vincent motorbike was always referred to as the 'Plumbers Nightmare' .As I come across more pics of the host of connections and pipes on the Bongo the description seems to apply to the Mazda engine too

Isnt it a Ford Engine ? Wouldnt the ford ranger be the same ?

[Dirk Schooner]

Dirk i will put a few bits in the post in the morning ...may get you out of trouble in the meantime i will try and id the pipe ive had a quick look but no joy....im suspicious of it because of the creases on the hose? they should not be there(even if twisted) hmm

Flippa, thanks for sending those, really appreciate it, I suspect that the hose was damaged when previous owner changed thermostat, perahps not disconnecting this pipe first and bending twisting it, I dont know.

Anyway, I have found the part number:

WL0113539 13539A HOSE,WATER-T/C WATER PIPE

I think what you sent looks just about right, will cut it down and fit it with the set of 4 and see how it goes.

*Update: on connector after scrabbling a round underneath it connects to a sensor in what looks like the oil sump (you can see in the picture the round seal thatt eh wire goes out of frame and back to), or at lestst the big lump at bottom of engine, have reconnected it, but darnt run engine to see if temp gauge moves...