TWS..

jaylee · Post by **jaylee** » Mon Mar 17, 2008 9:04 pm

Hi,
I am about to cure the one problem that has dogged me for the last six months .. TWS or Temperamental Window Syndrome.
I have studied the forum closely & have noticed most Bongo owners have had & cured this problem at some point. the tips are priceless.

The window switch is fine.. i replaced it, the previous owner must have dismantled the original switch because it definitely wasn't reassembled properly!
It's when i jiggle the wires between the door & the body panel that's when the fault occurs. (which must have been over looked by the last owner).

however one thing puzzles me..
How do you unclasp the wire loom clip thing on the lower drivers door hinge without breaking it?

Many thanxs.

David Edwards · Post by **David Edwards** » Mon Mar 17, 2008 10:35 pm

Ah simple answer, you don't or at least I didnt no matter how careful I thought I was it broke so when I finished with all those bloody fiddly little wires I just used a plastic tie. Some of those wires are so bloody thin too. Looking back it seems like I should have pushed it in and down to slide it out but too late now.

jaylee · Post by **jaylee** » Tue Mar 18, 2008 8:46 pm

David Edwards wrote:Ah simple answer, you don't or at least I didnt no matter how careful I thought I was it broke so when I finished with all those bloody fiddly little wires I just used a plastic tie. Some of those wires are so bloody thin too. Looking back it seems like I should have pushed it in and down to slide it out but too late now.

I just cut the tie..
Turns out it's the tie that was doing all the damage, snapping the earth wire. (the live was going home too!)
The rest are fine.. constant opening & closing of the door bends the wires round the clip and damages the wires.
I could never open or close the window when the door was open, thought it was a safety feature.. now i can! (it was disconnected when the door was open).

I've taken up the slack & done away with the clip. job's a good un!

Cheers Dave.

bigdaddycain · Post by **bigdaddycain** » Tue Mar 18, 2008 8:50 pm

Glad its sorted jay, if mine goes the same way, i'll use some convoluted tubing to sleeve the wires i think...

jaylee · Post by **jaylee** » Tue Mar 18, 2008 8:59 pm

I think those clips cause the problems they are meant to solve.
As long as the wires aren't constantly being bent acutely they should last!!
Cable tidy should do the job.

missfixit70 · Post by **missfixit70** » Thu Mar 20, 2008 3:39 pm

Parcel arrived today, 5 minutes to fit it, brilliant my TWS cured too $\:D/$ You are a superstar Jaylee, exactly the bit I needed, I owe you a drink or 2 if we meet up sometime

Gotta say it AGAIN - ISN'T THIS FORUM BLOODY GREAT

$\:D/$

jaylee · Post by **jaylee** » Thu Mar 20, 2008 6:13 pm

missfixit70 wrote:Parcel arrived today, 5 minutes to fit it, brilliant my TWS cured too $\:D/$ You are a superstar Jaylee, exactly the bit I needed, I owe you a drink or 2 if we meet up sometime Gotta say it AGAIN - ISN'T THIS FORUM BLOODY GREAT $\:D/$

Ah... the power of da tinternet!
No worries, i'm just happy to help out.. karma & all that!

mikeonb4c · Post by **mikeonb4c** » Thu Mar 20, 2008 6:45 pm

Huh? What is this miracle item Kirsty and Jaylee. Should I get one for when? I'd welcome pics of this problem as I can see how dodgy the design is for the wires bundle, just not sure how to tackle it in order to prevent the evil day arriving when...TWS reaches the shores of MangoBongo

jaylee · Post by **jaylee** » Thu Mar 20, 2008 7:14 pm

mikeonb4c wrote:Huh? What is this miracle item Kirsty and Jaylee. Should I get one for when? I'd welcome pics of this problem as I can see how dodgy the design is for the wires bundle, just not sure how to tackle it in order to prevent the evil day arriving when...TWS reaches the shores of MangoBongo

Well all i can say is, i personally believe the clip on the lower hinge that holds the door wire loom out of the way, in time causes the problem it's meant to solve..

If the black cable management tube is cracked at the point of the clip the chances are the wires are chaffing too.
I cut the wires out the clip repaired the damage.. took up the slack in the body panel (made sure there was no strain on the wires) trimmed the cable cover to about half & replaced.
The whole thing moves with the door & doesn't bend at an acute angle as it did when clipped to the hinge, thus not straining the wires!