Technical questions and answers about the Mazda Bongo
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by Bongeezer » Sun Feb 10, 2008 8:46 pm
Got the bongo rustproofed yesterday, went to rustmaster.co.uk who was very friendly and helpful and also did a thoroughly proper job. Whilst more expensive than most this is a 'proper job' incorporating the inside of panels etc as well as underneath - 10% Discount for members too
No - I'm not on commission, just a satisfied customer!
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by mister munkey » Sun Feb 10, 2008 9:41 pm
May I be so bold as to ask what the bottom line cost of a proper job would be then??

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by madmile » Sun Feb 10, 2008 10:37 pm
Dont ask unless you are sitting down

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by mister munkey » Sun Feb 10, 2008 10:43 pm
I have achieved the seated position. . . . .
Its a job I need to do & am prepared for the worst of answers. . . .
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by madmile » Sun Feb 10, 2008 11:08 pm
There was a discussion on a similar service a whiel back and I seem to recall near £400 being quoted. I may be wrong, and I am sure that it is a top quality job.
The answer is you get what you pay for, and I am sure someone would look at one of my conversions and say they could get a 'similar' one done elsewhere cheaper. They would probably be right (a little bit cheaper), but if faced with this cristcism I would point out the corners that others may have cut in order to get to their lower price and I would always say you get what you pay for.
The problem with wax oiling is that you dont really see it so its a hidden value, and I know that my vans are waxoiled for a lot less than this - and I would be the first to point out that it wont be to the same standard, but there is a limit to what I personally can justify on such an item.
One thing worth noting on the inside waxoiling - I did this on one I converted last year, prior to insulating it, but there was still a strong smell of waxoil inside a couple of months later!
Horses for courses I suppose.
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by mikeonb4c » Mon Feb 11, 2008 12:23 am
Well put madmile. I think waxoyling is fine and I reckon some pretty good jobs are being done for around £150 and which include injecting panels. I had the expensive job done (I suspect identical to Rustmasters job). There are two key points I think. The First is that you can be assured they have dried the vehicle out thoroughly in a purpose built drying room before applying the treatment. I can see a risk that some non specialists may not have a proper drying facility. How important that is I wouldn't like to say. The second is that the expensive job involves applying a hardwax as well as waxoyl (its this hardwax that carries on smelling for a while, though I found it quite pleasant and not overwhelming - like shoe polish and it went over 2 weeks or so). The hardwax is put on the underside of the vehicle, in wheel arches, chassis members etc. and, unlike waxoyl, is not prone to coming off under water blast or road grit abrasion. This means in practice that you don't have to get the job checked and redone every year as is recommended with waxoyl. The treatment is 'for life' (although they still recommend an inspection every 4 years or so) So that saves an annual cost of around £40-£50 and having to diary up to have it done (and I'd never get round to it!). Also, these quality jobs are beautiful when you look at them - I was really assured when I looked at mine. No regrets at all about shelling out £400. When the MOT mechanic saw it he called all his mates over to have a look he was so impressed
