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Technical questions and answers about the Mazda Bongo

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chrisd2211

Post by chrisd2211 » Thu Jan 10, 2008 8:21 pm

Yes it is a 4wd and i wondered if it was the diff what do you think? oh and the tyres are like new!
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Hunt the whine

Post by parabat2 » Fri Jan 11, 2008 11:15 am

I found it quite hard to work out from where the noise was coming. The garage put it on a ramp with a rolling road type thing, so they could pinpoint the source.

You might need to do this to track down your problem.

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Re: Hunt the whine

Post by chrisd2211 » Fri Jan 11, 2008 8:15 pm

parabat2 wrote:I found it quite hard to work out from where the noise was coming. The garage put it on a ramp with a rolling road type thing, so they could pinpoint the source.

You might need to do this to track down your problem.

Cheers

What did they Diagnose?? Im Curious !!
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Post by brorabongo » Fri Jan 11, 2008 8:26 pm

I once suffered from a nasty noise, which changed at different speeds. My problem was found to be the tyres, even though they look fairly new they were out of shape :shock: (seemed to happen suddenly)

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http://www.igmaynard.co.uk/bongo/forum/ ... ight=tyres
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Diagnosis

Post by parabat2 » Sun Jan 13, 2008 12:27 pm

What did they Diagnose?? Im Curious !!
The rear differential was excessively worn. This was not unexpected as the (different) garage that repaired the viscous coupler when it failed said they needed to adjust the "pre-load" on the rear diff because it was making a noise. (The front diff failed completely and was replaced with one from a breakers yard.) The adjusted rear diff lasted just over a year.

Given the hassle caused by the viscous coupler failing, and the fact that they do seem to be unreliable in general (not just on Bongo's) I would not have a car with one again!

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Post by aitch » Sun Jan 13, 2008 10:36 pm

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Post by dandywarhol » Sun Jan 13, 2008 11:52 pm

I think if I was you I'd be disconnecting the front propshaft and just running 2WD Tony................
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4WD -> 2WD

Post by parabat2 » Mon Jan 14, 2008 11:56 am

I think if I was you I'd be disconnecting the front propshaft and just running 2WD
I have thought of this, but one of the key reasons for getting a Bongo was because it was 4WD. It wouldn't have helped this time round anyway as it was the rear diff.

I need to think about this for a while.

By the way, I got the Bongo back this morning, and it seems to be running OK for the moment. (And my back has recovered - as much as it ever does!)

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Still whinning on

Post by chrisd2211 » Wed Jan 16, 2008 8:28 pm

Hi guys here we go with the next chapter i have allegedy had this noise fix that has cost me £140 (they originally wanted double that) after a bit of haggling anyhow I was told that the Bonga had been caught underneath and subsequently damaged a bracket wich holds the front diff in place allowing the diff to break a seal and leak oil I was assured that a new Bracket and a bit of tinkering it should be ok oh and a top up of diff oil would do the trick so imagine my surprise to drive home the 40 miles with a CONSTANT whinning noise STILL!! so my question or questions is 1 where do i stand having paid for a repair that was not required and secondly do you guys think it is possible that it could be a wheel bearing playing up, the reason i say that is that the problem is definatly motion related ie the faster the louder what do you think and is there anyway of checking for bearing wear and tear
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Re: Still whinning on

Post by francophile1947 » Wed Jan 16, 2008 8:32 pm

chrisd2211 wrote:Hi guys here we go with the next chapter i have allegedy had this noise fix that has cost me £140 (they originally wanted double that) after a bit of haggling anyhow I was told that the Bonga had been caught underneath and subsequently damaged a bracket wich holds the front diff in place allowing the diff to break a seal and leak oil I was assured that a new Bracket and a bit of tinkering it should be ok oh and a top up of diff oil would do the trick so imagine my surprise to drive home the 40 miles with a CONSTANT whinning noise STILL!! so my question or questions is 1 where do i stand having paid for a repair that was not required and secondly do you guys think it is possible that it could be a wheel bearing playing up, the reason i say that is that the problem is definatly motion related ie the faster the louder what do you think and is there anyway of checking for bearing wear and tear
If your wheel bearings are worn enough to be noisy, you should be able to rock the wheel from the top to bottom when it is jacked up.
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Post by BongoMTBer » Wed Jan 16, 2008 8:41 pm

Chris.

To check for wheel bearing wear:

1, Park the van somewhere flat with the handbrake off.
2, Work your way around each wheel, grabbing it at the top of the tyre and vigourously pushing in and out. If any of the bearings are shot, you should feel free-play.
3, Drive the vehicle and try cornering hard in both directions. If the sound changes or dissapears then this will give you a clue as to which side is gone. Eg. turn left and sound gets worse, the RH bearing.

If you do feel free play, be sure that it is in the bearing and not the swivel joint or any of the other suspension joints.

Hope this helps and good luck.
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Post by BongoMTBer » Wed Jan 16, 2008 8:42 pm

Sorry Franco, you put it much better than me and you obviously type a lot quicker too!
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Post by francophile1947 » Wed Jan 16, 2008 8:51 pm

BongoMTBer wrote:Sorry Franco, you put it much better than me and you obviously type a lot quicker too!
:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: Like lightening 8) - my FINGER moves faster than a JCB :oops: :oops:
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Post by BongoMTBer » Wed Jan 16, 2008 8:53 pm

Ah, fingers. I need to get away from using my elbows then!
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Post by chrisd2211 » Wed Jan 16, 2008 9:50 pm

Thanks guys I ll give that a try. What about the paying for repair that was not required???? Chris.
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