Hose clips - spring or Jubilee?

RobnKathryn · Post by **RobnKathryn** » Mon Sep 17, 2007 11:17 pm

I've just changed the engine in my van and replaced a couple of dodgy hoses. While doing that I changed the original spring clips to Jubilee clips thinking that they'd give a tighter more reliable seal.

Well, I'm getting a leak on one hose connection, and I'm wondering if I'd be better going back to the spring clips. I notice that all water pipes on the van have spring clips and all air pipes have jubilee clips. Do I take this to mean that spring clips are better for water pipes? I find it strange because the spring clips aren't that strong and a tightened jubilee clip seems much stronger.

What do you think?

Dabs · Post by **Dabs** » Mon Sep 17, 2007 11:29 pm

I asked this question to a mechanics whilst He was sorting my recent leaks and his answer was "each to their own on it" some peope prefer one over the other.I dont think it matters as long as they dont leak.

dabs

Colin Lambert · Post by **Colin Lambert** » Tue Sep 18, 2007 7:24 am

JUBILEE every time! you can get them far tighter. Wire clips are simply used by manufacturers for cheapness.
If it is leaking you may find the pipe stub is slightly corroded. lossen the clip and rotate the hose backward & forward a few times and try again with the J clip. (this method to save loss of coolant). If it does not work then you will have to take the hose off and clean the rigid pipe stub with (preferably) emery cloth or failing that coarse wet & dry sand paper.

floydster · Post by **floydster** » Tue Sep 18, 2007 11:38 am

Colin Lambert wrote:JUBILEE every time! you can get them far tighter. Wire clips are simply used by manufacturers for cheapness.

Agreed. I find them easier to use too.

Floydster

Socket Set Sue · Post by **Socket Set Sue** » Tue Sep 18, 2007 12:00 pm

There is no need to tighten Jubilee Clips too much, you can over-tighten them and weaken the rubber hose. Try and use stainless steel Jubilee Clips and position the head of the clip in a convenient position so removing and replacing is a simple affair.

RobnKathryn · Post by **RobnKathryn** » Tue Sep 18, 2007 10:56 pm

Thanks guys.........I'll persevere with my jubilees then!

Rob

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smartmonkey · Post by **smartmonkey** » Wed Sep 19, 2007 2:08 pm

The jubilee (tm) is the better job. If you have a leak it will be due to a bit of rust stopping the seal. Clean up the steel bit and run you finger around the inside of the rubber to check it hasn't picked up any crud. If it still won't seal you have a seriously degraded hose and change it pronto.

I find quite a few of the generic manufactures of worm drive clips make shoddy stuff - the good clips can apply a lot of torque without slipping. If you are using old or cheap clips you will be amazed at the difference a few decent new ones will make. If you have a 7mm 1/4" socket use that to do them up with, it's much better than a scredriver.

flippa · Post by **flippa** » Wed Sep 19, 2007 2:58 pm

great tip smartmonkey......i just replaced 9 hoses on mine and struggled with a screwdriver , and your solution was staring me in the face

i paid roughly 9 quid for decent clips ....be careful with them cheap ones ...you may get what you pay for

Captainsideways · Post by **Captainsideways** » Wed Sep 19, 2007 9:05 pm

Nope much prefer the original factory jobs!! I even run them on my 500bhp race car on water pipes. Jubilees are too easy to overtighten & damage the hose & they are always crap to remove & I find generally crap all round for citical jobs. Now Mikalor clamps.... they are good but they don't do em in the small sizes & at £3 a pop'ish not cheap. Great for "silly boost" aplications though