Changed my ATF fluid today

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Changed my ATF fluid today

Post by Yamaha » Mon Jul 30, 2007 9:37 pm

As the weather was good today, I decided to change the transmission fluid - a job I'd been putting off till the weather improved, as I have to work outside.

I took the Bongo for a drive, to warm things up, then sucked the old fluid out with my Pela 6000 suction pump - this certainly is a useful bit of kit - made the job a whole lot less messy than trying to remove a sump full of ATF fluid!!

When I'd got out all I could with the pump, I removed the gearbox sump to let it fully drain. I reckon there was les than 1/2 litre left in there after pumping.

When you remove the 4 x 10mm long bolts to clean the pick-up filter, be aware that there is an O ring on the round pipe that goes up into the gearbox - and actually TWO filter gauzes - one on the square pick-up tube, and one on the round pipe.

I gave this part a good swill around with some petrol, making sure both filters were as clean as possible, as you can't remove then from the assembly.
I cleaned the sump cover, also with petrol - there is a round, removable magnet in the centre - this was removed, and also given a good clean, before refitting the sump cover.

There is no problem with the gasket sticking - the weight of the cover itself broke the seal, once all the 10mm bolts were released, and the gasket comes off still attached to the cover.

I had a 5l container of Dexron 3 fluid - but found I still needed about another litre - will check the level again when I have been for a drive.

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Post by ChrisEm » Mon Jul 30, 2007 11:35 pm

I'm glad others are finding that it takes at least 5 litres of ATF to refill, I put nearly 7 in mine. I did let it drain for around 2 hours though. I think the general feeling is around 4.5 litres, I would say to everyone who is taking the sump off to make sure they have 7 litres of ATF available for refilling so as not to get caught short!.
Auntie-Freda

Post by Auntie-Freda » Wed Aug 01, 2007 12:57 pm

What frequency does ATF (and oil in diff's for that matter) need to be replaced?
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Post by Yamaha » Wed Aug 01, 2007 1:51 pm

I think it's about every 24,000 miles - it certainly feels a smoother change since changing it - well worth doing.

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Post by francophile1947 » Wed Aug 01, 2007 3:24 pm

How do you know if it needs changing? Mine looks nice and clean, but I have no idea when it was last changed.
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ChrisEm

Post by ChrisEm » Wed Aug 01, 2007 7:40 pm

I'd change it then for peace of mind! You'll be amazed at the sludge in the sump! Did the bolts turn up?
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Post by francophile1947 » Wed Aug 01, 2007 7:45 pm

ChrisEm wrote:I'd change it then for peace of mind! You'll be amazed at the sludge in the sump! Did the bolts turn up?
Hi Chris - no bolts yet, there has been some sort of industrial action so maybe they're in a pile somewhere :lol:
Did your oil look clean and red before you changed it?
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ChrisEm

Post by ChrisEm » Wed Aug 01, 2007 7:50 pm

Yes it looked clean and didn't smell burnt, however compare new and old and they are significantly different! I'll post some more bolts.
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Post by francophile1947 » Wed Aug 01, 2007 7:56 pm

ChrisEm wrote:Yes it looked clean and didn't smell burnt, however compare new and old and they are significantly different! I'll post some more bolts.
Thanks Chris, and I'll change my ATF :lol: :lol: :lol:
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Post by bigdaddycain » Wed Aug 01, 2007 8:10 pm

I'd better do mine too i guess, i check it, but it still seems a nice red,never uses any,and gearchanges are faultless... its at least four years old though... :roll:
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Post by francophile1947 » Wed Aug 01, 2007 8:54 pm

bigdaddycain wrote:I'd better do mine too i guess, i check it, but it still seems a nice red,never uses any,and gearchanges are faultless... its at least four years old though... :roll:
Same here bigdaddycain, but nearly everybody says it seems better after changing the fluid - just got to get a pump now :lol: :lol:
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Post by bigdaddycain » Wed Aug 01, 2007 9:17 pm

Me too john,...ive just been out taking off the wipers for a re-spray,and yep, you guessed it,by the time i'd prepped em, it peed it down!

Now i'll have to wait for the missus to go to work so i can sneak em into the kitchen to paint em...oh the sorrows of bongo ownership eh? :roll:

(i dunno why painting the wipers would make me feel better about not changing the gearbox fluid though?) :?
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Post by francophile1947 » Wed Aug 01, 2007 10:07 pm

From reading the posts while you were away, I'm surprised you'd got any wipers to paint :lol: :lol: :lol:
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Post by bigdaddycain » Wed Aug 01, 2007 10:08 pm

:lol: :lol: :lol: thats pretty much all the buggers left! :lol: :lol: :lol:
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