Bongo Fury

Found this gem on Regit (formerly Motoring.com):
"The new Golf mark 7.5 is available with a big saving of £4,000 when you trade in an older diesel, whatever the make, as long as it is registered before December the 31st 2009."
Surely the largest amount of emissions are caused through the manufacturing of a new car and the industrial processes related to recycling it? Recycling a nearly-new vehicle (well I think of a vehicle just over 8 years old as such) cannot be in any way 'environmentally friendly'. It's now the manufacturers jumping on the demonisation of - particularly older - diesels, after consumers being told for years they were the ones to buy.

Not sure of the exact sums, but I completely agree with you.

The last scrapage scheme was more about protecting the Sacred Cow of car jobs than cutting polution.

Couldn't agree more. Keep that cherished old car and drive it less (in populated / congested areas). The jump-on-the-bandwagon brigade (who might once have bought diesels but now love to hate them) are ripe for the picking by manufacturers who've identified profitable new sales potential through scrappage schemes.

From 2009:

https://www.carmagazine.co.uk/features/ ... he-planet/

It's just another example of marketing & sales executives trying to scam us and you have to admit it hasn't taken much talking on their part for politicians to see the advantage. Personally I think I am doing the planet a favour by not contributing to the pollution created during the manufacture of a new vehicle.
Further, during all the scrappage talk nobody has mentioned the difficulty of disposing the of the increasing number of electronic modules that modern vehicles are needlessly festooned with. These contain components that can be extremely toxic if disposed of incorrectly, but as far as I know they just get shipped to the far east to become their problem.

Peter

Years back I owned an A35 van. I was lucky as a neighbour had a pristine example (13k on the clock and showroom condition) that he offered to sell me. I pootled down to Cornwall (and back!) in it at 60mph whilst it delivered 40mpg. It made me realise that an old design could still be a smooth, comfortable and reliable drive provided its components were well maintained and functioning as they should. And the engineering was basic and simple and could be maintained either DIY or by any local mechanic with basic tools/facilities. I often think about that car.

I quite like the idea that 4WD diesels may become cheaper to buy as a result (bongos of course), as a result of all this!!!

mikeonb4c wrote: ↑Fri Feb 09, 2018 10:54 amI often think about that car.

Nostalgia's not what is used to be........

I agree with Mike......the basic simplicity of those old nostalgic cars was a joy to behold..

Yesterday my son took the alternator of our Suzuki Ignis....it took two hours and needed half of the car removing to get it out because of very limited access to it....I dread to think what a garage would charge just to remove it....

I used to do my own repairs at one time but these modern characterless cars are too complicated for the home mechanic.

I once had a Triumph Toledo and the WHOLE of the wiring diagram in the Haynes manual fitted on an A4 page....

Nuff said.....

Alan

Ian wrote: ↑Fri Feb 09, 2018 11:21 am

mikeonb4c wrote: ↑Fri Feb 09, 2018 10:54 amI often think about that car.

Nostalgia's not what is used to be........

And - even more sobering - neither are we

Well, I know what to do about sober.

Bob wrote: ↑Sat Feb 10, 2018 3:44 pm Well, I know what to do about sober.