Bongo Fury

Dear Forum, I'm a Londoner needing a Euro 4 petrol Bongo to be ready for the 2020 ULEZ.

Does anyone know what year and which petrol engines would be Euro 4 compliant?

Many thanks

Hi, and welcome aboard.

I'm not sure that any Bongo would comply as they have not been EU tested, possibly a very late, 2002/3, 2 litre might be OK, but let's hope someone knows more.

Only from memory, but I think the 'Don't come to London' exclusions apply with age, too.

Dear Bob, many thanks!

Just had a prod, this link may work, but not looking very positive.

http://igmaynard.co.uk/download/lez.pdf

David Alberman wrote:Dear Forum, I'm a Londoner needing a Euro 4 petrol Bongo to be ready for the 2020 ULEZ.

Does anyone know what year and which petrol engines would be Euro 4 compliant?

Many thanks

None of them are compliant!
Listened to the Shah on the radio this morning, typical politician, he managed to skirt round the buses and taxis that are not compliant and no mention of the aircraft pollution and the new runway at Heathrow.
He got it wrong on the emissions limits when he said that new diesels will emit less pollutant than petrol engines.
Maybe he should look at the TFL`s own figures.
I understood from what he said that the congestion charge would also be applied throughout the weekend.

Hopefully, by 2020 we shouldn't be worried about 'euro' anything and could even look forward to the wide choice of desirable Japanese vans which are available to our Commonwealth cousins who are not subservient to Brussels bureaucracy.

However all these draconian measures appear to be rushed through now in order to guarantee a revenue stream no matter what.

I've heard suggestions of £3,000 scrappage deals, so I might even end up in profit some time soon!


Frank

Probably end up like the last one Frank, dealers will increase the prices by whatever the allowance is
And as for the Euro thingy..
is that a pink flying pig on the bird feeder...

Basicaly letting you off the VAT to prop up the car industry.

Given the lifetime polution of a motor vehicle is largely in production this has nothing to do with saving the planet.

Green Wash if you ask me.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/21265568

Bob wrote:Basicaly letting you off the VAT to prop up the car industry.

Given the lifetime polution of a motor vehicle is largely in production this has nothing to do with saving the planet.

Green Wash if you ask me.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/21265568

Interesting link. I wouldn't be surprised if the scrappage scheme was responsible for the increase in diesel vehicle purchases. It was around that time that the virtues of owning a diesel were being extolled by these same politicians.
The problem is they dont know the difference between their Nox`s or their particulates.

P.S. wheres Mike?

Mike? Oh, Bill.

Thing is we all understand the need to reduce pollution of all kinds, just our Glorious Leaders don't quite seem to have a coordinated plan.

Real world example, our Bongo does about 30mpg, 6000 miles a year, and that includes all our holidays, including accommodation. Rarely moves without both of us.

No over heated or over air conned hotels, and I used to cycle to work.

Close pal of ours, let's call her Fiona, has a Smart Car. 30,000 miles a year, flies abroad at least 3 times a year (often more) and stays in hotels.

She's 'Little Miss Green', me and Sue are 'Mr and Mrs Planet Destroyer'.

I do wonder if space travel pollutes the atmosphere more than diesel (or petrol) vehicles do? If it does, how will they overcome the increase in pollution caused by sending tourists into space? (Maybe they'll slap a green tax on it and that will cure the problem?) Tootling a few hundred miles on a Bongo holiday might be less polluting than that.

Back on topic, I'm not aware of any Bongo engines that are Euro 4 compliant.

Bob wrote:Mike? Oh, Bill.

Thing is we all understand the need to reduce pollution of all kinds, just our Glorious Leaders don't quite seem to have a coordinated plan.

Real world example, our Bongo does about 30mpg, 6000 miles a year, and that includes all our holidays, including accommodation. Rarely moves without both of us.

No over heated or over air conned hotels, and I used to cycle to work.

Close pal of ours, let's call her Fiona, has a Smart Car. 30,000 miles a year, flies abroad at least 3 times a year (often more) and stays in hotels.

She's 'Little Miss Green', me and Sue are 'Mr and Mrs Planet Destroyer'.

Ben
Having just recently acquired my own personal Smart car I was wondering where the button might be that makes it fly?
Could I trouble you to ask Fiona? I have been pouring over the manual/handbook and can find no such feature on mine. Could it have been an option I wonder?
I can see that they can be tricky to master but worth the effort I would think.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RMzY1YVbZvY&t=59s

Note to self....
Medication adjustment required

Doone wrote:I do wonder if space travel pollutes the atmosphere more than diesel (or petrol) vehicles do? If it does, how will they overcome the increase in pollution caused by sending tourists into space? (Maybe they'll slap a green tax on it and that will cure the problem?) Tootling a few hundred miles on a Bongo holiday might be less polluting than that.

Back on topic, I'm not aware of any Bongo engines that are Euro 4 compliant.

I don't know about that fact, but I do know that there are a few "SPACE CADETS" on this forum.

Judge for yourselves ...

Bongolia wrote:

Bob wrote:Mike? Oh, Bill.

Thing is we all understand the need to reduce pollution of all kinds, just our Glorious Leaders don't quite seem to have a coordinated plan.

Real world example, our Bongo does about 30mpg, 6000 miles a year, and that includes all our holidays, including accommodation. Rarely moves without both of us.

No over heated or over air conned hotels, and I used to cycle to work.

Close pal of ours, let's call her Fiona, has a Smart Car. 30,000 miles a year, flies abroad at least 3 times a year (often more) and stays in hotels.

She's 'Little Miss Green', me and Sue are 'Mr and Mrs Planet Destroyer'.

Ben
Having just recently acquired my own personal Smart car I was wondering where the button might be that makes it fly?
Could I trouble you to ask Fiona? I have been pouring over the manual/handbook and can find no such feature on mine. Could it have been an option I wonder?
I can see that they can be tricky to master but worth the effort I would think.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RMzY1YVbZvY&t=59s

Note to self....
Medication adjustment required

This does look dangerous, they are driving on the wrong side of the road.

Bill here. Totally agree with Ben. A complex equation is needed to work out how green our travel habits are. First

(Polluting index of vehicle) x (1/years old) x ((rural miles per annum)+(urban miles travelled x 4)) / number of people being carried

..Ought to start covering the car handicap. Polluting index would need to be derived from volume and nastiness of noxious exhaust gases and particulates. We could also include indices for MPV usefulness/bulk-goods carrying capacity plus maybe another for green holidaying and lift sharing potential. Something could also be added for wellbeing and also for making and mending.

Another equation is needed to assess a person's greenness in relation to holiday habits. The car handicap could then be traded against holiday handicap.

Well, that's it from me. I'm off to the garden to do a few more weeds, bed a few more plants, and evict any unwelcome trolls i find lurking there.

Yrs flobbalobily

Bill