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Headlights Full beam not working

Posted: Mon Nov 14, 2016 9:09 pm
by al & chris
Tonight just put headlights on to full beam and all went dark, put back on to dipped and back on again. Intermitant at first stayed on full beam for a while then darkness. Any ideas, could it be a relay ?

Re: Headlights Full beam not working

Posted: Mon Nov 14, 2016 10:19 pm
by g8dhe
Check the lamp sockets first! They have a habit of heating up and losing all the spring in the connectors, if so replace with ceramic ones from ebay.
http://www.ebay.co.uk/sch/i.html?_from= ... s&_sacat=0

Re: Headlights Full beam not working

Posted: Mon Nov 14, 2016 11:11 pm
by Bob
Do they come on if you use the 'Flasher' on the stalk?

That will give a clue if its the connectors or possibly the relay or the contacts on the stalk.

Re: Headlights Full beam not working

Posted: Tue Nov 15, 2016 12:00 pm
by MalcW
g8dhe wrote:Check the lamp sockets first! They have a habit of heating up and losing all the spring in the connectors, if so replace with ceramic ones from ebay.
http://www.ebay.co.uk/sch/i.html?_from= ... s&_sacat=0
I would have thought it unlikely that both bulb holders would fail simultaneously. More likely to be the stalk.

Re: Headlights Full beam not working

Posted: Tue Nov 15, 2016 12:28 pm
by Bob
Again rare, but I have known both bulbs go, hence worth trying the flasher. :wink:

Re: Headlights Full beam not working

Posted: Tue Nov 15, 2016 7:40 pm
by teenmal
al & chris wrote:Tonight just put headlights on to full beam and all went dark, put back on to dipped and back on again. Intermitant at first stayed on full beam for a while then darkness. Any ideas, could it be a relay ?
Owing to the fact that as you have said "it was intermittent" I would have a good look at the relays, they tend to get a wee bit damp and dirty around the Gills.
But don't rule out the bulbs first.

Re: Headlights Full beam not working

Posted: Tue Nov 15, 2016 9:11 pm
by mikeonb4c
teenmal wrote:
al & chris wrote:Tonight just put headlights on to full beam and all went dark, put back on to dipped and back on again. Intermitant at first stayed on full beam for a while then darkness. Any ideas, could it be a relay ?
Owing to the fact that as you have said "it was intermittent" I would have a good look at the relays, they tend to get a wee bit damp and dirty around the Gills.
But don't rule out the bulbs first.
I'm inclined towards the relays myself, but guess its a case of working through all the points raised above.

Re: Headlights Full beam not working

Posted: Tue Nov 15, 2016 9:18 pm
by al & chris
Bob wrote:Do they come on if you use the 'Flasher' on the stalk?

That will give a clue if its the connectors or possibly the relay or the contacts on the stalk.
Yes they do come on if using flasher, just when flick stalk forwards. Was intermitant for a couple of times now does now just darkkness when stalk flicked forwards. No high beam and no headlights.

Re: Headlights Full beam not working

Posted: Tue Nov 15, 2016 9:58 pm
by Bob
By any chance do you have spot lights fitted to come on with main beam?

If an extra relay wasn't fitted this could have burned out the contacts in the stalk.

And do I read correctly there's also no dipped beam?

Re: Headlights Full beam not working

Posted: Tue Nov 15, 2016 10:02 pm
by mikeonb4c
al & chris wrote:
Bob wrote:Do they come on if you use the 'Flasher' on the stalk?

That will give a clue if its the connectors or possibly the relay or the contacts on the stalk.
Yes they do come on if using flasher, just when flick stalk forwards. Was intermitant for a couple of times now does now just darkkness when stalk flicked forwards. No high beam and no headlights.
Ah - doesn't sound so much like the relay now. Stalk now the main suspect?

Re: Headlights Full beam not working

Posted: Tue Nov 15, 2016 10:35 pm
by al & chris
Bob wrote:By any chance do you have spot lights fitted to come on with main beam?

If an extra relay wasn't fitted this could have burned out the contacts in the stalk.

And do I read correctly there's also no dipped beam?
No spot lights. Dipped beam as normal until headlights flicked forwards to full beam then dipped beam goes out as well as full beam not coming on.

Re: Headlights Full beam not working

Posted: Tue Nov 15, 2016 11:20 pm
by Bob
That's normal, with this set up dip will always go out when main is selected.

One or the other, not both together. :wink:

Re: Headlights Full beam not working

Posted: Wed Nov 16, 2016 3:58 pm
by rita
To get the main and dipped to come on together you need to switch the dip on then use the flash operation, the dip will go out BUT when you release the stalk Slightly the dip will come back on illuminating both main and dip. This operation has been used for years against ignorant oncoming drivers, and really light up lonely unlit country roads.

Good Luck.

Re: Headlights Full beam not working

Posted: Thu Nov 17, 2016 9:50 pm
by al & chris
Sprayed wd 40 into stalk contact area and main beam worked for a couple of minutes. Dirty stalk contacts? Or do they need to be replaced. Are they easy to get to and do I have to disassemble them to clean them.

Re: Headlights Full beam not working

Posted: Thu Nov 17, 2016 10:14 pm
by Bob
I'd try some spray contact cleaner, if that doesn't work the contacts are likely burned out.

Don't know how hard it is to remove the stalk but it shouldn't be too difficult, trim off the column and a couple of screws I'd guess. =D>