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Overfilled V6 with oil?

Posted: Sun Jun 07, 2015 10:44 pm
by DorsetSi
Hi,

Serviced the V6 for the first time myself today. I filled up with the recommended 5 litres of oil, however looking at the dip stick, I am concerned that I have overfilled

https://www.dropbox.com/s/x4ie5u2wo1nu3 ... 9.jpg?dl=0

I presume the second notch is full (no indication on stick).

Engine was completely emptied of old oil, and oil filler replaced. Reading taken on level ground after running for several minutes and letting it settle for a few minutes afterwards.

Any ideas if this looks like I need to drain some off?

Re: Overfilled V6 with oil?

Posted: Sun Jun 07, 2015 11:02 pm
by Simon Jones
What oil have you put where? That appears to be the gearbox dip stick and it's massively overfilled. The engine oil dipstick is on the passenger side as seen with the yellow ring:

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Re: Overfilled V6 with oil?

Posted: Sun Jun 07, 2015 11:27 pm
by Bob
I would say don't drive it until its sorted.

So many horror stories here start with a drive of 'Just a short distance, I had to...'

Re: Overfilled V6 with oil?

Posted: Mon Jun 08, 2015 7:19 am
by teenmal
DorsetSi ,regarding the gearbox fluid level this requires to be checked / tested with the engine Running and the selector in Park after ranging through the gear positions a couple of times.

Re: Overfilled V6 with oil?

Posted: Mon Jun 08, 2015 9:24 am
by mikeWalsall
Like in Simons picture the engine oil dip stick is at the N/S front of the engine (by the dizzy) ..

It looks like you are dipping the Dexron3 auto fluid .. and not the engine oil ..!!

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Mine is a V6 and it takes the full five liters .. but the level is usually a touch .. under .. the top notch.

Re: Overfilled V6 with oil?

Posted: Mon Jun 08, 2015 11:13 am
by DorsetSi
:oops: How embarassing....thanks all! I read up extensively on the procedure before carrying out the oil change, but it is always the minor details isnt it!

I will check the level with the correct dipstick this evening.

I will also check the transission fluid with the suggested procedure to ensure that looks OK too.

Thanks again.

Re: Overfilled V6 with oil?

Posted: Mon Jun 08, 2015 12:28 pm
by Simon Jones
On my V6, the transmission dipstick has different marking for hot & cold but in both cases (as mentioned previously) the engine needs to be running & the selector cycled thru all positions a few times beforehand. Getting the level correct is tricky and not something I'd want to do again in a hurry.

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Re: Overfilled V6 with oil?

Posted: Mon Jun 08, 2015 12:38 pm
by mikeWalsall
Don't feel to bad ..

I have had my Bongo three and a half years .. took it in today to have the tracking done ..

Driving it back home something was definitely not right .. a kind of grabbing on ..off feel ...

I was thinking about turning round to go back .. looked down .. the mechanic had put the handbrake on ..!!

With having to put it in 'P'ark to get the ignition key out.. that's all I normally do ..!!

Re: Overfilled V6 with oil?

Posted: Mon Jun 08, 2015 4:45 pm
by Gasy
^^^^^^^
He he Mike

With reference to the dip stick piccy at top
My dip sticks like that and that does seem abit high
Do the check with engine running as has been said

But also the colour of that dex111 should be pink / red might just be piccy

Re: Overfilled V6 with oil?

Posted: Mon Jun 08, 2015 5:03 pm
by mikeWalsall
The reason for having the engine running and moving the lever through the 'L' to 'P' several times is so that the oil ways / valve block / torque converter are all full of fluid and it's not all in the sump ..

I assume the auto fluid dipstick picture .. is when the engine is off .. fluid would have flowed back into the sump giving a high reading .. at a guess when you do a proper gearbox check with the engine running your level will be 'rightish' ..

Like Simon says .. with having to dip the auto box with the engine running there is a certain amount of 'splash' on the dip stick ..

I usually dip quick .. push the dip stick right in and withdraw in a split second .. check .. wipe with a clean rag then another dip in / out as quick as possible ..(errrm we are checking Dexron3 auto fluid) ..!!

Usually after a few .. very quick dips you get an accurate fluid level ..

In an ideal world the fluid should be a transparent cherry red .. but .. it's very hard to judge true colour on the metal dipstick ..

As a rule of thumb .. if it is still transparent and not obviously a smelly / muddy brown colour it will live for a bit longer ..

The best way of physically checking, is to suck some fluid out into a clear glass .. then check in a good light ..

Re: Overfilled V6 with oil?

Posted: Mon Jun 08, 2015 5:23 pm
by rita
mikeWalsall wrote:The reason for having the engine running and moving the lever through the 'L' to 'P' several times is so that the oil ways / valve block / torque converter are all full of fluid and it's not all in the sump ..

I assume the auto fluid dipstick picture .. is when the engine is off .. fluid would have flowed back into the sump giving a high reading .. at a guess when you do a proper gearbox check with the engine running your level will be 'rightish' ..

Like Simon says .. with having to dip the auto box with the engine running there is a certain amount of 'splash' on the dip stick ..

I usually dip quick .. push the dip stick right in and withdraw in a split second .. check .. wipe with a clean rag then another dip in / out as quick as possible ..(errrm we are checking Dexron3 auto fluid) ..!!

Usually after a few .. very quick dips you get an accurate fluid level ..

In an ideal world the fluid should be a transparent cherry red .. but .. it's very hard to judge true colour on the metal dipstick ..

As a rule of thumb .. if it is still transparent and not obviously a smelly / muddy brown colour it will live for a bit longer ..

The best way of physically checking, is to suck some fluid out into a clear glass .. then check in a good light ..
Using white piece of kitchen roll or tissue will give you an idea to the colour and condition of the fluid .

:)