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Some Interesting Solar results and removing a bonded panel

Posted: Sat Jul 05, 2014 10:54 am
by Dodgey
Just before I went to France 2 weeks ago I removed 2 x 40w flat solar panels on my Bongo that I'd installed several years ago (when I had no idea or experience on how to neatly apply the adhesive!!! - that's changed now! :-) ). I wanted to install and test a 100W flex panel.

I wanted to know how hard it really is to remove panels stuck on with Sikaflex - I'd heard rumours that the roof would break before the sikaflex let go, and I wanted to stick the new panel on with air/water gaps in the adhesive to allow a moderate amount of air circulation underneath, and for water drainage.

When I removed the old panels which were sealed all the way round, there was evidence of moisture underneath. Not much, but some. So drainage was definitely a good idea.

Here is the start of the process.

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I just slid a fully extended knife under/through the adhesive. It was no problem. As I peeled the panels off, I used the same blade to help any stubborn adhesive let go.

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(above - ugly cable gland. I don't recommend these any more.)

Below is the remaining adhesive. It's mostly stayed on the roof as it's a better keyed surface.

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Below: IF I'd cared, I think I could have removed most of the adhesive without too much paint removal. It'll need painting regardless.

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Most importantly the roof is not damaged in any way. The rumours were just that, rumours.

I then stuck on a 100W panel. There is a margin in the right that the new panel does not cover - leaving the damaged paint visible. I'll either put a grey sticker on it, or, I'm thinking, a solar camper solutions logo on a black sticker along it :-) Can't see the point in a respray when a sticker will do the job perfectly.

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So far, very impressive. Frequently getting over 5 amps. Not seen the 6 amps I regularly get from aluminium framed panels of the same power rating. That's to be expected as these thin panels get hotter.

This surprised me though...

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In that shade, the panel was still producing 1.9 Amps!!

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It was a very bright day, so there will have been lots of reflected light, but I never expected nearly 2 amps under a tree.

Re: Some Interesting Solar results and removing a bonded pan

Posted: Sat Jul 05, 2014 11:11 am
by rita
Great pics,

PS I have never seen any Imps under a tree, I think it must be a myth.

Re: Some Interesting Solar results and removing a bonded pan

Posted: Sat Jul 05, 2014 11:12 am
by rita
Oops sorry, its amps.

:lol:

Re: Some Interesting Solar results and removing a bonded pan

Posted: Sun Jul 06, 2014 8:29 pm
by mikexgough
I'm totally happy with the 100w framed panel I have.... works brilliant.... now going to go for one for the caravan too....

Re: Some Interesting Solar results and removing a bonded pan

Posted: Sun Jul 06, 2014 9:22 pm
by Dodgey
I'd use framed as a preference , but I like to have real world experience of the panels I sell, even if it does trash my roof paint ;-)

Re: Some Interesting Solar results and removing a bonded pan

Posted: Tue Jul 08, 2014 9:41 pm
by xander77
I have an ally framed 80watt panel keeps the fridge a 12 volt unit running all the time without draining the leisure battery very happy solar user

Re: Some Interesting Solar results and removing a bonded pan

Posted: Wed Jul 09, 2014 6:03 pm
by dobby
Great write up/photos, I shall stick with my framed one for now as it's new but toying with a bonded one once prices/sizes etc change in the future. Have to say that I'd sooner fit a solar panel than bleed a bongo again!

Re: Some Interesting Solar results and removing a bonded pan

Posted: Wed Jul 09, 2014 10:31 pm
by Dodgey
Lol - I've not tried that yet :-)