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Campervan or MPV??
Posted: Thu Mar 20, 2014 10:58 pm
by xt600
I was looking to convert my Bongo with a rear kitchen unit, and re-register it as a campervan.
However, I then found this:
http://webarchive.nationalarchives.gov. ... Advice.pdf
It seems from this that only a center conversion constitutes a 'real' campervan even though all the 'boxes' can be ticked with a rear conversion.
Has anyone here re-registered with just a rear conversion?
Re: Campervan or MPV??
Posted: Sun Mar 23, 2014 4:19 pm
by xt600
I'm surprised that no-one on this forum has re-registered their van....
Re: Campervan or MPV??
Posted: Sun Mar 23, 2014 4:43 pm
by Simon Jones
Re: Campervan or MPV??
Posted: Sun Mar 23, 2014 6:16 pm
by marko66
yes I recently changed to motor caravan with a rear conversion no problem .
Re: Campervan or MPV??
Posted: Sun Mar 23, 2014 9:50 pm
by xt600
Thanks...I have read through them now, but still wondering what the link I posted above is all about!? It clearly shows rear conversions as being unacceptable conversions. Maybe this is 'old' information...?
Re: Campervan or MPV??
Posted: Sun Mar 23, 2014 9:51 pm
by xt600
marko66 wrote:yes I recently changed to motor caravan with a rear conversion no problem .
That's good... got any pics?

Re: Campervan or MPV??
Posted: Mon Mar 24, 2014 1:03 pm
by winchman
From memory this whole document is poorly constructed.
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The following pictures give examples of what should and should not be considered to be a motor
caravan for the purposes of Type Approval/Registration.
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Its also mainly used for registering vehicles when imported, we just want a change of body type, so I feel its different.
Re: Campervan or MPV??
Posted: Mon Mar 24, 2014 1:08 pm
by winchman
That video is excellent, we must remember some people have never done any DIY so we need to give them confidence and a bit of help.
Why not offer a service exchange service and convert peoples lights?
Re: Campervan or MPV??
Posted: Mon Mar 24, 2014 1:41 pm
by Simon Jones
Possibly copy & paste fail there

Re: Campervan or MPV??
Posted: Mon Mar 24, 2014 3:31 pm
by mikeonb4c
I suspect what they are looking for is permanent conversions that show you intend it purely as a camping vehicle, so the more removeable they think it is (stress that) the less likely it is to qualify. To paraphrase Lord Denning: if you look for the sense of a thing, there you might expect to find the rules.
Re: Campervan or MPV??
Posted: Mon Mar 24, 2014 11:01 pm
by xt600
I would have to assume that the information in that link is outdated and doesn't apply any more. One would think that a vehicle with an elevating roof sleeping area and built in blinds/curtains is MORE campervan than MPV or 'dayvan'!
I can get insurance for £179 as a campervan, but it's at least £100 more if I don't convert it! It's certainly helped me make up my mind about the conversion, so I think I'll embark on a DIY rear conversion very soon....
Re: Campervan or MPV??
Posted: Mon Mar 24, 2014 11:42 pm
by mikeonb4c
xt600 wrote:I would have to assume that the information in that link is outdated and doesn't apply any more. One would think that a vehicle with an elevating roof sleeping area and built in blinds/curtains is MORE campervan than MPV or 'dayvan'!
I can get insurance for £179 as a campervan, but it's at least £100 more if I don't convert it! It's certainly helped me make up my mind about the conversion, so I think I'll embark on a DIY rear conversion very soon....
I agree. It does seem odd and I'd love to know what really drives their policy. Maybe it's because a true campervan is less likely to be used as an everyday vehicle on busy roads, and the statistics bear out a lower accident rate. The insurers then look to the registration to be stringent about only allowing a vehicle to be classified as a campervan once it has lost its multi purpose every day use appeal.

Re: Campervan or MPV??
Posted: Tue Mar 25, 2014 12:10 am
by Simon Jones
I believe the number of seats is a key factor. Unconverted, a Bongo can carry 8 people so in the event of an accident the cost of the injury / fatality claims could run to several hundred thousand pounds, maybe even more.