Bongo Fury

Can anyone help me. My Bongo just failed its MOT because they were unable to squirt water onto the front windscreen. I have checked the fuse which is fine, wipers activate but there is no motor noise or water. Rear wash/wipe works fine.

Thanks,

Greg (Red Bully Bongo)

Red Bully Bongo wrote:Can anyone help me. My Bongo just failed its MOT because they were unable to squirt water onto the front windscreen. I have checked the fuse which is fine, wipers activate but there is no motor noise or water. Rear wash/wipe works fine.

Thanks,

Greg (Red Bully Bongo)

It will be the pump or the connectors to the pump. Take the washer bottle out and have a look at the pump and the electrical connectors. To get it through the MOT you could just swap the pipes over on to the rear washer pump which is on the same bottle and then replace the pump afterwards. If you take the pump into any good motor factors they should have a direct replacement.

The front and rear pumps have different electrical connectors so you can't swap them around. You could swap the pipes around, but I'm not sure if the MOT tester will be happy that you have to use the rear wash/wipe switch to wash the front windscreen. New pumps can be picked up for Mazda MX5 which I believe is the same for under £10.

Alternately, you can sometimes repair them: http://www.igmaynard.co.uk/bongo/forum/ ... =3&t=53514

Hi,to get it through the MOT you could simply just swap the hoses and the 12 volt supplies over.

Simon Jones wrote:The front and rear pumps have different electrical connectors so you can't swap them around.

That's why I suggested swapping pipes over although it just needs a couple of wires to make the connections temporarily to get through the MOT.

Simon Jones wrote:You could swap the pipes around, but I'm not sure if the MOT tester will be happy that you have to use the rear wash/wipe switch to wash the front windscreen

That is perfectly acceptable, as long as you can wash the front windscreen it is a pass

Hi,the rear and front pumps are the same,if not someone has had a go at them in the past.

Poohbear wrote:

Simon Jones wrote:The front and rear pumps have different electrical connectors so you can't swap them around.

That's why I suggested swapping pipes over although it just needs a couple of wires to make the connections temporarily to get through the MOT.

Simon Jones wrote:You could swap the pipes around, but I'm not sure if the MOT tester will be happy that you have to use the rear wash/wipe switch to wash the front windscreen

That is perfectly acceptable, as long as you can wash the front windscreen it is a pass

Hi you need to remember that if you use the rear stalk (switch)the washer will supply water to the windscreen but the rear wiper blade will operate not the front.I am afraid that would be a Fail.

rita wrote:Hi you need to remember that if you use the rear stalk (switch)the washer will supply water to the windscreen but the rear wiper blade will operate not the front.I am afraid that would be a Fail.

Not true, you have to be able to wash and wipe the front screen. It doesn't matter what switch you use to do that and what the rear wiper does is not important because the rear wash wipe is not part of the MOT.

Poohbear wrote:

rita wrote:Hi you need to remember that if you use the rear stalk (switch)the washer will supply water to the windscreen but the rear wiper blade will operate not the front.I am afraid that would be a Fail.

Not true, you have to be able to wash and wipe the front screen. It doesn't matter what switch you use to do that and what the rear wiper does is not important because the rear wash wipe is not part of the MOT.

Hi,I dont think you understand,if you use the rear wiper switch the Rear Wiper Will operate not the Front Wiper. Changing the wires on the pumps will make the rear pump wash the Front windscreen,but the rear wiper will operate.

teenmal wrote:Hi,the rear and front pumps are the same,if not someone has had a go at them in the past.

With regard to the pumps being different, I can only comment from my findings which was that one had two parallel spade terminals like this | | while the the other had one at 90 degrees like this -|

They also have different part numbers:

S05B67482     76672    PUMP,WASHER    ???A NO.1
S05C67482     76672    PUMP,WASHER    ???A NO.2

...and if this diagram is correct, the pipes come out at different angles as they are effectively mirror images of each other:

rita wrote:

Poohbear wrote:

rita wrote:Hi you need to remember that if you use the rear stalk (switch)the washer will supply water to the windscreen but the rear wiper blade will operate not the front.I am afraid that would be a Fail.

Not true, you have to be able to wash and wipe the front screen. It doesn't matter what switch you use to do that and what the rear wiper does is not important because the rear wash wipe is not part of the MOT.

Hi,I dont think you understand,if you use the rear wiper switch the Rear Wiper Will operate not the Front Wiper. Changing the wires on the pumps will make the rear pump wash the Front windscreen,but the rear wiper will operate.

I do understand very well. It's quite simple, you switch on the front wipers and then you operate the rear wash wipe (having swopped the pipes over). This washes the windscreen and the wipers will wipe it. The fact that the rear wiper operates is immaterial. On old cars you didn't have wash-wipe as such, you switched the wipers on and then operated the washers, which on some cars was a button on the floor near the clutch pedal

Hi,Simon,if I want a rear pump what would the part number be or for that the front pump part number

Thanks.

Hi poobear,
Alas,we are now in 2013,and things have changed a wee bit,just a other bit of information for you in your quest.

The Windscreen Washers MUST provide Enough Liquid to Clear the Windscreen ON/IN JUNCTION with the APPROPRIATE WIPERS.

PS have you actualy carried out an MOTT.

teenmal wrote:Hi poobear,
Alas,we are now in 2013,and things have changed a wee bit,just a other bit of information for you in your quest.

The Windscreen Washers MUST provide Enough Liquid to Clear the Windscreen ON/IN JUNCTION with the APPROPRIATE WIPERS.

PS have you actualy carried out an MOTT.

I don't know how much more simply I can put it. You must have wipers and washers for the front windscreen. There is nothing to say that they have to operate together, or from the same button. Check the MOT testers manual rather than just guessing.

P.S. Yes I have carried out an MOT (not sure what an MOTT is )

Poohbear wrote:

teenmal wrote:Hi poobear,
Alas,we are now in 2013,and things have changed a wee bit,just a other bit of information for you in your quest.

The Windscreen Washers MUST provide Enough Liquid to Clear the Windscreen ON/IN JUNCTION with the APPROPRIATE WIPERS.

PS have you actualy carried out an MOTT.

I don't know how much more simply I can put it. You must have wipers and washers for the front windscreen. There is nothing to say that they have to operate together, or from the same button. Check the MOT testers manual rather than just guessing.

P.S. Yes I have carried out an MOT (not sure what an MOTT is )

Enough Said,have a nice night.