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Paint code for the Silver on lower half

Posted: Tue Oct 04, 2011 12:40 pm
by Jezza
Hi We've got a '96 Bongo in Paint code 14D (Greece Green) as per the avatar pic - but what is the colour match for the silver lower half, and more importantly, now partially colour coded bumper :? - If there is a standard out of the aerosol colour I can use from Halfords that'd be extremely useful

thanks
Jezza

Re: Paint code for the Silver on lower half

Posted: Tue Oct 04, 2011 1:23 pm
by Simon Jones
The metal plate inside the door shut (passenger side ?) has the paint code for both the top & bottom. Can't recall name off the top of my head, but Ian used to sell aerosols in the club shop.

Re: Paint code for the Silver on lower half

Posted: Tue Oct 04, 2011 8:07 pm
by francophile1947
Greece green is usually over Highlight Silver.

Re: Paint code for the Silver on lower half

Posted: Tue Oct 04, 2011 10:40 pm
by MountainGoat
I don't think that the lower half will be Highlight Silver. The paint code for my two tone silver Bongo is 19N which equates to 18G + 4Z or Highlight Silver over Silent Silver.

Tony

Re: Paint code for the Silver on lower half

Posted: Wed Oct 05, 2011 11:06 am
by Jezza
I think the codes that are colour 'x' over colour 'y' means it's one of those pearlescent paints that require a metallic base coat under the main colour. On the Paint factsheet 14D is quoted as Greece Green - not over anything - so it's not one of these pearlescent colours which has a silver base colour, so I assume that means it's a "solid" colour (can be painted in 1 shot!)

What I actually want is the code for the silver that the lower part of the van, and bumpers, are painted !

I had a look at the tag on the passenger side where I found the 14D in the body colour box - but where does it tell you the secondary colour (i.e. the silver?)

Re: Paint code for the Silver on lower half

Posted: Wed Oct 05, 2011 1:50 pm
by francophile1947
The only other code with Greece Green included is 19R, which is Greece Green over Highlight Silver (code 18G). If it's not that, then I guess the van must have had a respray.

Re: Paint code for the Silver on lower half

Posted: Wed Oct 05, 2011 2:11 pm
by missfixit70
Jezza wrote:I think the codes that are colour 'x' over colour 'y' means it's one of those pearlescent paints that require a metallic base coat under the main colour. On the Paint factsheet 14D is quoted as Greece Green - not over anything - so it's not one of these pearlescent colours which has a silver base colour, so I assume that means it's a "solid" colour (can be painted in 1 shot!)
Nope it means one colour on the top half & another on the bottom half, the clue is in the facvt it says "two tone" at the top of the table of colours, eg mine is

14E - 5S + 4Z - Neat Green over Silent Silver, which means it is green on the top half & silver on the bottom half, both of which can be "painted in 1 shot"
What I actually want is the code for the silver that the lower part of the van, and bumpers, are painted !

I had a look at the tag on the passenger side where I found the 14D in the body colour box - but where does it tell you the secondary colour (i.e. the silver?)
If yours is a standard colour it'll either be silent silver or highlight silver. Not sure re the paintcode on yours, it's usually in the one paint code as per the factsheet.

Re: Paint code for the Silver on lower half

Posted: Wed Oct 05, 2011 2:50 pm
by New Forest Terrier
Is it actually paint on the bottom half? Mine appears neat green over silver, but the silver is not paint, it is a protective pvc coating like a thick decal.

I have only one paint code, the neat green, as this is the paint under the silver. This is a japanese original finish and does look very like a paint job as it is colour matched to the bumpers.

Re: Paint code for the Silver on lower half

Posted: Wed Oct 05, 2011 3:51 pm
by rita
francophile1947 wrote:Greece green is usually over Highlight Silver.

As you say...19R=14D+18G

14D=Greece Green

18G=Highlight Silver

Cheers.

Basil..

Re: Paint code for the Silver on lower half

Posted: Wed Oct 05, 2011 9:49 pm
by kloonsy
missfixit70 wrote:
Jezza wrote:I think the codes that are colour 'x' over colour 'y' means it's one of those pearlescent paints that require a metallic base coat under the main colour. On the Paint factsheet 14D is quoted as Greece Green - not over anything - so it's not one of these pearlescent colours which has a silver base colour, so I assume that means it's a "solid" colour (can be painted in 1 shot!)
Nope it means one colour on the top half & another on the bottom half, the clue is in the facvt it says "two tone" at the top of the table of colours, eg mine is

14E - 5S + 4Z - Neat Green over Silent Silver, which means it is green on the top half & silver on the bottom half, both of which can be "painted in 1 shot"
Not quite Kirsty, both are basecoats that require a clearcoat on top. Some modern mica/pearl/xyrillic require a coloured groundcoat first :wink:

Re: Paint code for the Silver on lower half

Posted: Wed Oct 05, 2011 9:54 pm
by missfixit70
Yeah, but not a green coat over a silver coat to give the required finish as the OP was saying :wink: , the colour itself is one colour on top a normal primer isn't it?

Re: Paint code for the Silver on lower half

Posted: Wed Oct 05, 2011 10:03 pm
by kloonsy
missfixit70 wrote:Yeah, but not a green coat over a silver coat to give the required finish as the OP was saying :wink: , the colour itself is one colour on top a normal primer isn't it?
#-o #-o #-o :oops:

Re: Paint code for the Silver on lower half

Posted: Thu Oct 06, 2011 2:56 pm
by Jezza
Ok - this is getting confusing!

The fact sheet regarding paint colours states 14D is Greece Green - there is no reference to it being over anything - so I'm taking it that Greece Green is a "solid" colour - not requiring a metallic base coat (Highlight Silver or Silent Silver)

I'm pretty sure it's the original paint job (allowing for touch-ups here and there) as I have seen a couple of ther Bongo's in the same 2 colours.

I've sent off to Ian for a bottle of 4Z (Silent Silver) to see if it's a match

Surely I can't be the first to have scraped the bumper of their Bongo and tried to patch it up ..... can I ??? :oops:

Re: Paint code for the Silver on lower half

Posted: Thu Oct 06, 2011 5:55 pm
by missfixit70
Jezza wrote:Ok - this is getting confusing!

The fact sheet regarding paint colours states 14D is Greece Green - there is no reference to it being over anything - so I'm taking it that Greece Green is a "solid" colour - not requiring a metallic base coat (Highlight Silver or Silent Silver)
#-o There is no metallic base coat, as I said above Silent Silver & Highlight Silver are the paint codes for the lower half of the body (ie "neat green over silent silver" is neat green on the top half - silent siver on the bottom half - not a base coat, they are both metallic type paints in their own right), NOT for a metallic base coat, the base coat is just a bog standard grey primer for both, you are confusing yourself :wink:

Re: Paint code for the Silver on lower half

Posted: Thu Oct 06, 2011 7:43 pm
by kloonsy
missfixit70 wrote:
Jezza wrote:Ok - this is getting confusing!

The fact sheet regarding paint colours states 14D is Greece Green - there is no reference to it being over anything - so I'm taking it that Greece Green is a "solid" colour - not requiring a metallic base coat (Highlight Silver or Silent Silver)
#-o There is no metallic base coat, as I said above Silent Silver & Highlight Silver are the paint codes for the lower half of the body (ie "neat green over silent silver" is neat green on the top half - silent siver on the bottom half - not a base coat, they are both metallic type paints in their own right), NOT for a metallic base coat, the base coat is just a bog standard grey primer for both, you are confusing yourself :wink:
You are right kirsty but they ARE basecoats, meaning they require a clearcoat on top. You can't get a shiny metallic finish straight out of the tin #-o