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Access to top hose stub
Posted: Tue Aug 02, 2011 10:47 am
by widdowson2008
Should know this but.........
To gain a bit more access to the top hose stub as it leaves the head would this work? This elbow is just part of the air intake isn't it?

Re: Access to top hose stub
Posted: Tue Aug 02, 2011 12:19 pm
by missfixit70
Yup, just part of the air intake, good opportunity to remove some of the crap in there due to the egr, BUT that connection on to the hose at the bottom can be a bugger to reconnect, may be as much of a fanny as connecting your temp probe onto the top hose stub

Re: Access to top hose stub
Posted: Tue Aug 02, 2011 12:38 pm
by jaylee
I'm just glad i was blessed with pixie hands....!
Wont the timing belt cover be a little hindrance too!!?
missfixit70 wrote:Yup, just part of the air intake, good opportunity to remove some of the crap in there due to the egr, BUT that connection on to the hose at the bottom can be a bugger to reconnect,
may be as much of a fanny as connecting your temp probe onto the top hose stub 
With Kirsty on that one... Had to reconnect that hose coming up from the intercooler myself after it had disconnected when the guy at Bell Hill couldn't get his hands in... That's another story...
Re: Access to top hose stub
Posted: Tue Aug 02, 2011 12:40 pm
by missfixit70
jaylee wrote:I'm just glad i was blessed with pixie hands....!

I've been cursed with poxy hands, but I'm a stubborn bugger & don't like to be beaten

Re: Access to top hose stub
Posted: Tue Aug 02, 2011 1:21 pm
by widdowson2008
missfixit70 wrote:Yup, just part of the air intake, good opportunity to remove some of the crap in there due to the egr, BUT that
connection on to the hose at the bottom can be a bugger to reconnect, may be as much of a fanny as connecting your temp probe onto the top hose stub

What I was thinking (wondering) was can the elbow just be pushed to one side still attached to the hose?
Re: Access to top hose stub
Posted: Tue Aug 02, 2011 1:31 pm
by missfixit70
There is a bit of movement there, but I reckon by the time you add up the extra time & aggro undoing the bolts, (back one is a bit awkward from memory) & then doing it back up afterwards (after you've found & fished out the bolt/s you've dropped), it's still going to be quicker/easier doing it as it is with a small ratchet & 7mm socket, or a 7mm ratchet ring spanner, but I'm happy to be proved wrong if it is a quicker/easier way

(7mm is to tighten a jubilee clip for those that don't know what we're on about

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Re: Access to top hose stub
Posted: Tue Aug 02, 2011 1:34 pm
by widdowson2008
jaylee wrote:
Wont the timing belt cover be a little hindrance too!!?
With Kirsty on that one... Had to reconnect that hose coming up from the intercooler myself after it had disconnected when the guy at Bell Hill couldn't get his hands in... That's another story...
Sorry Kirsty - you beat me to the send button.
Hi Jamie
That's why I was asking if it could be pushed to one side still connected to that hose. It's only rubber (the hose) and should flex shouldn't it?
Only reason for making a 'bit' of room is that I watched Kirsty fitting mine (and A.N.OTHER). She didn't use any bad language at the time but it looked a bit of a cow to get at the Jubilee to tighten it. Having looked at it, I was thinking that if the elbow could be shifted out of the way it would make room to get at the Jubilee. May be enough room for me to do it despite timing belt cover. Dunno - that's why I'm asking.
Re: Access to top hose stub
Posted: Tue Aug 02, 2011 2:12 pm
by jaylee
There isn't a lot of give in that pipe going down to the inter-cooler... I've had the inter-cooler off from underneath as well a few months back & after taking off the three bolts at the back & loosening the clips on the pipes either side, all the rubber is quite stiff...
http://lushprojects.com/bongopartsmk2/c ... mgno=.html
I just completely undid the clip, wrapped it round the pipe, reconnected under the Archimedes type screw fastener a couple of turns, poked a slim screwdriver under the clip to prize out slightly to allow the sensor, (Being careful NOT to damage the top hose!!) poked it under wher you see it fitted..
& hand tightened, so as to hold the sensor firmly in place, but not to possibly crush it!!??
Re: Access to top hose stub
Posted: Tue Aug 02, 2011 2:37 pm
by widdowson2008
Thanks for info Jamie and Kirsty.
Suppose it's gonna be the hard way then

Re: Access to top hose stub
Posted: Tue Aug 02, 2011 2:41 pm
by jaylee
I know Michael J Fox has small hands...

Re: Access to top hose stub
Posted: Tue Aug 02, 2011 2:45 pm
by haydn callow
Just tape it to the top hose....little or no differance......
Perhaps you understand why we go for the back of the cylinder head....again little differance.
It seems a simple job is being made difficult.......By the time you have done all that messing about you could also have dropped a bit of coolant......cut the top hose...inserted a inline sensor and bled the thing.......AND....your sensor would be in the coolant flow.....
Not for the average DIY'er though....
Re: Access to top hose stub
Posted: Tue Aug 02, 2011 2:45 pm
by haydn callow
Steve W...your rubber fillets are on the way
Re: Access to top hose stub
Posted: Tue Aug 02, 2011 2:50 pm
by jaylee
haydn callow wrote:
Not for the average DIY'er though....
Yeah, but it's great fun messin about!!

Re: Access to top hose stub
Posted: Wed Aug 03, 2011 12:57 am
by The Great Pretender
widdowson2008 wrote:Should know this but.........
To gain a bit more access to the top hose stub as it leaves the head would this work? This elbow is just part of the air intake isn't it?

Were you draining the power steering fluid at the same time?
Re: Access to top hose stub
Posted: Wed Aug 03, 2011 8:33 am
by widdowson2008
haydn callow wrote:Steve W...your rubber fillets are on the way
Many thanks Haydn. Looking forward to the getting them.
What you're saying about 'simple job made difficult' is so true, but Jaylees comment ..'great fun messing...' is also very true (in my case.)

Thanks for input though.

I'll let you know what actually happens.