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Hi the AFT will not elevate??? ideas please

Posted: Fri May 20, 2011 2:18 pm
by Bongo787
After reading some similar problems to what this one is having and have had no joy I thought it would be better to ask for help rather than breaking something #-o

Anyways

The roof will not go up, i've tried all the std things to check

Black box in R Arch
H/brake switch
Cancel switch in roof
Fusebox etc

but i still cant it to budge.... I know it worked last time it was used about 9 months ago

There is one extra factor to this equation though there is a piece of memory foam in the roof, that must have been put in through the front of the awning as i had to hack away at the hatch to gain access to the cancel button.

What happens

P & engine running, hand brake on

press switch on roof,warning light on dash flashes yet dimmer as do the other warning lights??
warning buzzer sounds but no movement or noise from motors?

Please can anyone help thanks

Re: Hi the AFT will not elevate??? ideas please

Posted: Fri May 20, 2011 2:22 pm
by umbongocat
Bongo787 wrote:After reading some similar problems to what this one is having and have had no joy I thought it would be better to ask for help rather than breaking something #-o

Anyways

The roof will not go up, i've tried all the std things to check

Black box in R Arch
H/brake switch
Cancel switch in roof
Fusebox etc

but i still cant it to budge.... I know it worked last time it was used about 9 months ago

There is one extra factor to this equation though there is a piece of memory foam in the roof, that must have been put in through the front of the awning as i had to hack away at the hatch to gain access to the cancel button.

What happens

P & engine running, hand brake on

press switch on roof,warning light on dash flashes yet dimmer as do the other warning lights??
warning buzzer sounds but no movement or noise from motors?

Please can anyone help thanks
Are you trying it with the engine running?

Re: Hi the AFT will not elevate??? ideas please

Posted: Fri May 20, 2011 2:23 pm
by Bongo787
Hi Yes

Re: Hi the AFT will not elevate??? ideas please

Posted: Fri May 20, 2011 2:25 pm
by teenmal
Hi,make sure that the AFT is not stuck to the roof of the vehicle.

Cheers.

Re: Hi the AFT will not elevate??? ideas please

Posted: Fri May 20, 2011 2:28 pm
by Bongo787
Hi i've been right round the rubber seal with an old credit card as i thought with it been stood it maybe stuck too

but thanks anyways :wink:

Re: Hi the AFT will not elevate??? ideas please

Posted: Fri May 20, 2011 2:29 pm
by mikeonb4c
I have had similar problems (now fixed). Have a search on here to see what things others suggest you check out first (handbrake switch etc.). Once the simple possibilities have been eliminated, and as you are in Lancashire, I would strongly recommend Adrian at Jap Motors in Bury (t.0161-763-3003) as the man to fix it (v. experienced with Bongos, v. reasonable labour costs, and great to deal with) as he has been fixing a lot of these (mine included) lately. The shape of ageing Bongo things to come :roll:

Re: Hi the AFT will not elevate??? ideas please

Posted: Fri May 20, 2011 2:33 pm
by thegreenman
if the warning lights dim when attempting to put the roof up, then that would suggest a significant voltage drop.

If the fuse is not blowing, have you checked your battery voltage when lifting the roof.

Re: Hi the AFT will not elevate??? ideas please

Posted: Fri May 20, 2011 2:37 pm
by Bongo787
Now thats something i havent checked??? it does have 2 batteries on it linked to each other but both have been allowed to go dead a couple of times...

I'll check that one now what readings should i be getting please?

Re: Hi the AFT will not elevate??? ideas please

Posted: Fri May 20, 2011 2:54 pm
by Bongo787
Ok after a quick test my readings are

17.8v ign off
14.5v ign on

Stange thing is when engine running the meter goes to 1 ?

now im confused...

Re: Hi the AFT will not elevate??? ideas please

Posted: Fri May 20, 2011 2:56 pm
by mikeonb4c
Bongo787 wrote:Ok after a quick test my readings are

17.8v ign off
14.5v ign on

Stange thing is when engine running the meter goes to 1 ?

now im confused...
Give Adrian a call :wink:

Re: Hi the AFT will not elevate??? ideas please

Posted: Fri May 20, 2011 3:01 pm
by crazy uncle gray g
:-k Incase the memory foam has caught up in the mechanism
have you tried giving it a gentle hand pushing it up from inside
whilst operating the up switch ?

Re: Hi the AFT will not elevate??? ideas please

Posted: Fri May 20, 2011 3:20 pm
by wishmaster
crazy uncle gray g wrote::-k Incase the memory foam has caught up in the mechanism
have you tried giving it a gentle hand pushing it up from inside
whilst operating the up switch ?
Thats a good idea from Crazy, a gentle push might just do the trick :wink:

Good luck

Izzy

Re: Hi the AFT will not elevate??? ideas please

Posted: Fri May 20, 2011 3:35 pm
by Velocette
Bongo787 wrote:Ok after a quick test my readings are

17.8v ign off
14.5v ign on

Stange thing is when engine running the meter goes to 1 ?

now im confused...
Does that just indicate the voltage has gone out of range? Buggered if I can remember for sure but I think that is what my multimeter does.

Re: Hi the AFT will not elevate??? ideas please

Posted: Fri May 20, 2011 3:51 pm
by Bongo787
Ok thanks to everybodys help so far :D
I've just been to garage to get a more accurate reading on the batteries and the aux battery was bad, so i replaced it and hoped that was the problem anyways i got back home and tried the roof again.

The dash lights still dim when i press the switch and nothing happens :cry:

I am thinking on a similar line to the foam been trapped in the mechanism some where, how much force can i push on the roof before doing permanent damage please?

If my attempts prove to defeat me then I think its a trip to Bury :roll:

Re: Hi the AFT will not elevate??? ideas please

Posted: Fri May 20, 2011 4:24 pm
by Bongo787
Right i've tried teasing the roof up whilst pressing the up switch and still nothing :|