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wiring and sockets for head unit
Posted: Fri Nov 20, 2009 1:21 am
by Jules59
Ive just finished stripping out the original and obsolete ICE (dvd, minidisc, satnav, TV etc) and am left with these wires (see pic). I believe I now need a mazda-ISO connector to install a new head unit.
There is a aerial cable coming from the aerial on outside or left A post , but what is this cable that im holding - it comes from the right side and its obviously standard fitment from the way its installed. Is it another aerial cable ? from some other aerial maybe?

Re: wiring and sockets for head unit
Posted: Fri Nov 20, 2009 8:38 am
by westonwarrior
I cant see it clearly but mine had a speaker cable added buy the japaneese owner for the drivers side could it be that
Re: wiring and sockets for head unit
Posted: Fri Nov 20, 2009 10:21 am
by stringman
That connector is a radio co ax connector. If you have two of these one will probably be for a GPS aerial for the sat nav and the other for the radio. In my experience a GPS one will normally be a small SMA screw on connector but who knows with the Japanese?
PS Get rid of those nasty scotch locks and use solder instead. You're asking for trouble with those things (they are banned by every auto electrical installation company in the country!)
Re: wiring and sockets for head unit
Posted: Fri Nov 20, 2009 8:01 pm
by dave_aber
That is definitely the radio antenna connector. It's slightly different to a long euro/UK one, but it will fit OK (the end has a ball shaped bit, UK ones are plain). However, a lot of modern UK/Euro radios have a short socket, about 1/4 the depth of that, so it would need an adaptor - available from all good motor factors and multinational chain rip offs.
The black lead in your photo just between the 2 white connectors looks like a SMA connector on a thin co-ax. This will be the GPS. Tuck it away for another day, when you fit Satnav.
And I must second Stringman's comments about Scotchlocks. They either cut right through the cable being tapped into, or just make a connection that will fail one day soon. Solder and heatshrink is the way ahead. (Or soldersleeves, even better)
Re: wiring and sockets for head unit
Posted: Fri Nov 20, 2009 10:00 pm
by stilldesperate
Agree with Dave aber and stringman, the standard radio ariel is on the drivers side, so the lead you are holding should go to that - it will need an adaptor to fit the UK system you install.
Ditto the comments about the scotchlocks, you are better to solder them.
To save cutting the original wire, bare about 1/2" of the insulation, then wrap the wire to be connected round it, and apply solder. When cooled, wrap with self-amalgamating tape.
The other lead could even be for a TV antenna, I got two (one on each side) when I bought the Bongo.
Hope this helps,
SD
Re: wiring and sockets for head unit
Posted: Mon Nov 23, 2009 8:22 am
by Jules59
stilldesperate wrote:Agree with Dave aber and stringman, the standard radio ariel is on the drivers side, so the lead you are holding should go to that - it will need an adaptor to fit the UK system you install. ...
SD
Where is the standard ariel ?
The only one I can see is on the left A post.

Re: wiring and sockets for head unit
Posted: Mon Nov 23, 2009 8:48 am
by helen&tony
Hi
I see from that first picture that someone has left a dodgy looking hand in there

. Yuss..I like self-amalgam tape ...you just can't buy it here...I have to get it sent.....it seems to be pretty waterproof, too.
Cheers
Helen
Re: wiring and sockets for head unit
Posted: Mon Nov 23, 2009 9:19 am
by Jules59
helen&tony wrote:Hi
I see from that first picture that someone has left a dodgy looking hand in there

. Yuss..I like self-amalgam tape ...you just can't buy it here...I have to get it sent.....it seems to be pretty waterproof, too.
Cheers
Helen
I once bought a series 1 landrover for parts from the wife of a then recently deceased MP. I found a full bottle of "Houses of Parliament Scotch Whiskey" tucked neatly behind the dashboard. Its amazing what you find sometimes.

I keep the bottle (now empty) in the garage as a momento.
Re: wiring and sockets for head unit
Posted: Mon Nov 23, 2009 9:34 am
by dave_aber
Where is the standard ariel ?
The only one I can see is on the left A post.
Ahhh... Picture tells 1000 words etc.
You have a mushroom roof, which started lif as a tintop, so the aerial arrangement is different. On a AFT, the aerial is above the back edge of the driver's door. I guess that the aerial you have on the passenger side A post is a standard tintop aerial. I'd have guessed that they would have been driver's side as well, but yours is passenger side.
Unless of course your Bongo started off as an AFT rather than a tintop before the mushroom roof was fitted? In which case the aerial could be fitted during the roof conversion and the passenger side makes sense to avoid it being in the way of the roof when opening it. If it was an AFT originally, you should have a roof switch in the headlining at the back of the cab (redundant), and a blanking plate where the original aerial was, above the driver's door.
Re: wiring and sockets for head unit
Posted: Mon Nov 23, 2009 10:13 am
by helen&tony
Hi Jules
Ah, yes...I've seen Houses of Parliament Whiskey....talk about the "Perks" they get...cheap booze...etc.
Series 1 LWB Safari is a dream vehicle for me....RARE to say the least......I have only owned a 2A, and a Series 3 LWB Safari....Gorgeous motors, and each with REAL character.
Cheers
Helen
Re: wiring and sockets for head unit
Posted: Mon Nov 23, 2009 11:32 pm
by Jules59
dave_aber wrote:Where is the standard ariel ?
The only one I can see is on the left A post.
Ahhh... Picture tells 1000 words etc.
You have a mushroom roof, which started lif as a tintop, so the aerial arrangement is different. On a AFT, the aerial is above the back edge of the driver's door. I guess that the aerial you have on the passenger side A post is a standard tintop aerial. I'd have guessed that they would have been driver's side as well, but yours is passenger side.
Unless of course your Bongo started off as an AFT rather than a tintop before the mushroom roof was fitted? In which case the aerial could be fitted during the roof conversion and the passenger side makes sense to avoid it being in the way of the roof when opening it. If it was an AFT originally, you should have a roof switch in the headlining at the back of the cab (redundant), and a blanking plate where the original aerial was, above the driver's door.
Thanks -all is explained - it was a tintop prior to the mushroom roof.
Re: wiring and sockets for head unit
Posted: Tue Nov 24, 2009 12:23 am
by blobber
The aerial on the pillar is def aftermarket. tintops have the aerial above the drivers side pillar, so the plug in the pic is probably the now redundant lead from that.
Re: wiring and sockets for head unit
Posted: Thu Nov 26, 2009 12:55 am
by Jules59
Obtained PC2-10-4 Mazda/ISO connector from ebay (£2.73 inc del). Installed old CD/FM headunit that my son once had and has been sitting in the garage for about 4 years - works a treat including the aerial. Very easy to install in fact.