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Is it the gearbox? Help

Posted: Thu Aug 13, 2009 2:46 pm
by Quackers
Hi,

:( Trouble started Monday with no warning. Wouldn't go any higher than 2nd. Had just come of a normal motorway run of 12 miles and was pulling off from the roundabout above. A couple of miles on it wouldn't change up out of 1st! Limped to a side road and waited for the breakdown man.

Checked transmission oil which seemed fine. He took it for spin and it was fine. "get it to a garage to get it checked" Set off the last few miles as this was quicker than waiting the 2 hours for a breakdown truck, but it didn't last long. When I revved hard it wouldn't change up but did if I eased up. As this is now London driving I wasnt too concerned about only having 2 gears. With a softly, softly touch on the accelerator I got home. Got it to a garage the next day who told me that the transmission oil was nearly gone and that it seemed better but will not rev above 2500.

Help please. I just need an idea of what damage has been done or what could be causing it.

Jen

Re: Is it the gearbox? Help

Posted: Thu Aug 13, 2009 2:54 pm
by bigdaddycain
Hi Jen, are you saying that the ATF fluid has been replaced, is now on the full mark, and the problem still persists?

Re: Is it the gearbox? Help

Posted: Thu Aug 13, 2009 3:24 pm
by Quackers
Hiya,

Yes they put in 1.5 ltr but I haven't had much chance to test it out but it still isn't going through the gears properly.

I will take it on a long run after work.

Jen

Re: Is it the gearbox? Help

Posted: Thu Aug 13, 2009 3:48 pm
by francophile1947
If the ATF had almost gone, it'll need a lot more than 1.5 litres. Problem is where did it go?
Hopefully, dandywarhol will be along soon - he's the auto box expert 8)

Re: Is it the gearbox? Help

Posted: Thu Aug 13, 2009 3:53 pm
by bigdaddycain
francophile1947 wrote:If the ATF had almost gone, it'll need a lot more than 1.5 litres. Problem is where did it go?
Hopefully, dandywarhol will be along soon - he's the auto box expert 8)
Off the top of my head i think the capacity is 6.7 litres...so yeah, 1.5 litres won't replenish an almost empty gearbox! :shock:

The way the reading of fluid level matters too... I take it the level was checked with the engine running and the gearbox in drive?

Re: Is it the gearbox? Help

Posted: Thu Aug 13, 2009 4:04 pm
by Quackers
would have thought the garage would know how to check but may have a go myself later.

Only advice I'm getting is
1)needs to go to an Auto transmission specialist
2)needs to go to a diesel specialists.

Might not be easy to find a Bonfo friendly garage in South East london.


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Re: Is it the gearbox? Help

Posted: Thu Aug 13, 2009 4:30 pm
by Doone
would have thought the garage would know how to check but may have a go myself later.
THIS POST and THIS POST give useful advice on changing/checking the ATF.

Re: Is it the gearbox? Help

Posted: Thu Aug 13, 2009 4:31 pm
by missfixit70
Have you looked in the members area? there's a list of bongo friendly garages.

Re: Is it the gearbox? Help

Posted: Thu Aug 13, 2009 4:55 pm
by dom_e
We've just had the fluid changed - took about 5 litres apparently. It's a lot smoother now.

Re: Is it the gearbox? Help

Posted: Thu Aug 13, 2009 5:04 pm
by missfixit70
It could well be the oil is manky - even if it looks ok, may be worth dropping it all out (or sucking it out with a pela pump) then dropping the pan & giving it a good clean. My oil looked fine, but was starting to feel a bit "lumpy" on changes, I was shocked to see how manky the sump pan was - http://www.igmaynard.co.uk/bongo/forum/ ... earbox+oil
Was yours showing any other signs before it gave up, lumpiness on change, or anything else?
I wonder if this could be a TPS issue? Has the Hold light or glowplug light been flashing at all? possibly worth checking for gearbox fault codes & engine diagnostics - "how to" in the fact sheets in the members area.

Re: Is it the gearbox? Help

Posted: Fri Aug 14, 2009 7:04 am
by Quackers
Thanks for all the replies.

It has been suggested by a garage regularly services Bongos that it may be a fuel problem. On their suggestion I tested out how high the revs go in park and all I got was 2800.

Step one - Where is the fuel filter?
Please don't say members area as mine has just run out and I'm leaving the UK in a couple of weeks so have not renewed.

Which brings me to my other problem. Need to sell it but how do I sell a faulty Bongo?

Jen

Re: Is it the gearbox? Help

Posted: Fri Aug 14, 2009 7:12 am
by daveblueozzie
Fuel filter under the drivers seat.dont forget to disconect the wire from the bottom of the filter, and then reconect the new one on the new filter.

Re: Is it the gearbox? Help

Posted: Fri Aug 14, 2009 12:16 pm
by missfixit70
Check the banjo filter on the fuel pump too.
Selling a bongo that doesn't work isn't going to be easy, you'll have to take a big hit on price, if you can get someone to buy it, as it could potentially be an expensive fix.

Re: Is it the gearbox? Help

Posted: Fri Aug 14, 2009 1:06 pm
by Quackers
Hi,

Cheers Dave and Kirsty

Will get both filters checked.

Don't mind a drop on price if I had any interest. Was about to start advertising when this happened. Have no idea as yet what to do if not sold before I leave. Usual rust popping out everywhere but I love it to bits and would never be selling. Can't exactly park it on a Dutch Barge and we aren't going to be staying in one place.

So if anyone is interested PM me.