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Dodgy Oil Filters
Posted: Tue Jun 02, 2009 11:10 pm
by Ian
We have had a couple of reports of some oil filters failing under pressure. Until technical assurances have been given, please ensure that you (or your mechanic) do not use Fram filters, part number PH6355.
Re: Dodgy Oil Filters
Posted: Wed Jun 03, 2009 9:06 pm
by thegreenman
Ian wrote:We have had a couple of reports of some oil filters failing under pressure. Until technical assurances have been given, please ensure that you (or your mechanic) do not use Fram filters, part number PH6355.
I've just fitted one and deposited a load of oil on the drive. Not Happy. Might take it back to the motor factor for a refund, but not happy
Replaced it tonight with a Blueprint ADC42105 so hopefully all will be well tomorrow. It's a good job my yrdy drive was short and circular, so I was almos6t home when the bloody thing failed.
Didn't this type of filter have failuresd a few years ago as well?
Best avoided in future.
Re: Dodgy Oil Filters
Posted: Wed Jun 03, 2009 9:47 pm
by Ian
Didn't this type of filter have failuresd a few years ago as well?
No, it was Comline filters previously (CMB11321).
Re: Dodgy Oil Filters
Posted: Wed Jun 03, 2009 11:48 pm
by dandywarhol
Is the filter failing or coming off at the threads?
Re: Dodgy Oil Filters
Posted: Thu Jun 04, 2009 8:17 am
by Ian
It's failing. Problem with the seal I think.
Re: Dodgy Oil Filters
Posted: Mon Jun 08, 2009 9:48 am
by thegreenman
Replaced my Fram with a blueprint version which is working fine. Been away for the weekend to Durdle Door and all seems well.
I fitted the Fram filter without using a strap wrench. I usually make it hand tight then don the rubber gardening gloves and grab it with both hands and give it another half turn. This has always worked in the past, but as I did it this time I did feel that the tightening didn't feel very progressive. When I removed it, it took much less effort than I would have expected, so although it was still hand tight, that could be why it was leaking.
Blueprint filter mwas much more progressive as it tightened, used a strap wrench just to be sure.
It's all a bit subjective, and I was panicking to get the Bongo ready for the weekend, but I think the oil was coming out at such a rate that I would suspect seal failure. Even though it could have been tighter, I would expect it to be dripping rather than flooding out.
Could be wrong tho
Re: Dodgy Oil Filters
Posted: Mon Jun 08, 2009 3:01 pm
by dandywarhol
Maybe that's why the seal is failing - the filter should ONLY be hand tight and no more. The seal needs to be oiled before fitting too.
Maybe the amateurs are fitting the filter dry and horsing it up tight, damaging the seal
Re: Dodgy Oil Filters
Posted: Mon Jun 08, 2009 4:27 pm
by thegreenman
Not guilty there I'm afraid.
Fram filter was tightened by hand and the seal was well oiled before fitting.
Re: Dodgy Oil Filters
Posted: Mon Jun 08, 2009 5:24 pm
by scanner
thegreenman wrote:Not guilty there I'm afraid.
Fram filter was tightened by hand and the seal was well oiled before fitting.
Why did you say you used a strap wrench then.................
Re: Dodgy Oil Filters
Posted: Mon Jun 08, 2009 6:58 pm
by dandywarhol
Greenman says he DIDN'T use a strap wrench scanner - time to get yer eyes tested I think
I still wouldn't force it another half turn whatever colour the gloves are...........
Re: Dodgy Oil Filters
Posted: Mon Jun 08, 2009 7:06 pm
by missfixit70
thegreenman wrote:Replaced my Fram with a blueprint version which is working fine. Been away for the weekend to Durdle Door and all seems well.
I fitted the Fram filter without using a strap wrench. I usually make it hand tight then don the rubber gardening gloves and grab it with both hands and give it another half turn. This has always worked in the past, but as I did it this time I did feel that the tightening didn't feel very progressive. When I removed it, it took much less effort than I would have expected, so although it was still hand tight, that could be why it was leaking.
Blueprint filter mwas much more progressive as it tightened, used a strap wrench just to be sure.
It's all a bit subjective, and I was panicking to get the Bongo ready for the weekend, but I think the oil was coming out at such a rate that I would suspect seal failure. Even though it could have been tighter, I would expect it to be dripping rather than flooding out.
Could be wrong tho
Re: Dodgy Oil Filters
Posted: Mon Jun 08, 2009 7:22 pm
by dandywarhol
Oops, needing my eyes tested now....................
Re: Dodgy Oil Filters
Posted: Mon Jun 08, 2009 7:30 pm
by missfixit70
Nobody's perfect
Re: Dodgy Oil Filters
Posted: Mon Jun 08, 2009 7:38 pm
by BongoMTBer
I had a leaky oil filter on another car a few years back. When I had fitted, I must have caught the rubber seal on the threaded spiggot when I was locating it (poor access). The slightly dislodged it from it recess. When I started it to carry out the leak check... it leaked
Anyway, I inspected the seal and it was nadgered as a result so I popped the old seal in the new filter and all was well.
Re: Dodgy Oil Filters
Posted: Mon Jun 08, 2009 10:13 pm
by scanner
I knew I'd seen it somewhere.....................just not where I thought I'd seen it.