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Rear End Shudder when pulling away
Posted: Tue Apr 28, 2009 9:01 am
by wormey
I have had Freda for 3 months now, she is still under warranty from a reputable dealer. Freda is a 4x4 2.5 diesel Auto with no LSD.
Recently under hard aceleration from standing (Straight line ) the back end shudders for a short while and disappears.
I had to take Freda back to the garage last week for unrelated warranty work and I mentioned it then.
I was told that it was normal, the symptoms are now getting slightly worse.
Should a Bongo/Freda shudder under aceleration, I love my Freda and want her just right.
Daz
Re: Rear End Shudder when pulling away
Posted: Tue Apr 28, 2009 10:05 am
by dandywarhol
Not normal. Check tyres are same depths of tread and correct size. Could be the start of a viscous coupling fault.
Re: Rear End Shudder when pulling away
Posted: Tue Apr 28, 2009 12:07 pm
by wormey
Thanks for the replies,
New tyres all around same size, Last night I jacked up the back diff to have both wheels off the ground.
This morning no shudder at all, I take it I had wind up in the 4x4 system??.
Daz
Re: Rear End Shudder when pulling away
Posted: Tue Apr 28, 2009 12:53 pm
by haydn callow
I get a shuddering from the back but only when towing....can somone explain what this "windup" is ??
Re: Rear End Shudder when pulling away
Posted: Tue Apr 28, 2009 1:23 pm
by francophile1947
wormey wrote:
This morning no shudder at all, I take it I had wind up in the 4x4 system??.
Daz
Didn't think you got any wind up with same size tyres all round, unless a wheel was skidding

Re: Rear End Shudder when pulling away
Posted: Tue Apr 28, 2009 1:45 pm
by missfixit70
Or as Dandy says it could be the first signs of VC problems?
Re: Rear End Shudder when pulling away
Posted: Tue Apr 28, 2009 4:30 pm
by dandywarhol
francophile1947 wrote:wormey wrote:
This morning no shudder at all, I take it I had wind up in the 4x4 system??.
Daz
Didn't think you got any wind up with same size tyres all round, unless a wheel was skidding

You'll get windup if the VC's faulty John as there's no guarantee all the tyres are EXACTLY the same circumference
Re: Rear End Shudder when pulling away
Posted: Tue Apr 28, 2009 4:34 pm
by dandywarhol
haydn callow wrote:I get a shuddering from the back but only when towing....can somone explain what this "windup" is ??
Coolant alarms are a waste of time!
There's a windup
WIND UP
Re: Rear End Shudder when pulling away
Posted: Tue Apr 28, 2009 4:34 pm
by francophile1947
dandywarhol wrote:francophile1947 wrote:wormey wrote:
This morning no shudder at all, I take it I had wind up in the 4x4 system??.
Daz
Didn't think you got any wind up with same size tyres all round, unless a wheel was skidding

You'll get windup if the VC's faulty John as there's no guarantee all the tyres are EXACTLY the same circumference
Thanks Dandy

I guess it must be the VC as it says new tyres all round, so they should be the same size (unless they're faulty

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Re: Rear End Shudder when pulling away
Posted: Tue Apr 28, 2009 7:35 pm
by wormey
I have contacted the company and it's booked in for next week.
Could I have caused any long term damage to the VC, driven it for about 2000 miles.

Where is the VC and how do I know if they've changed/repaired it.
Daz
Re: Rear End Shudder when pulling away
Posted: Tue Apr 28, 2009 8:49 pm
by dandywarhol
Difficult to say - it's the big lump of casing on the back of the gearbox and it can't be overhauled (as far as I know)
Interesting explanation here...........
http://www.excite-webtl.jp/world/englis ... N&wb_dis=2
Re: Rear End Shudder when pulling away
Posted: Tue Apr 28, 2009 9:29 pm
by scanner
wormey wrote:and how do I know if they've changed/repaired it.
Put a great big unmissable mark on it with a file or something similar.
As DW says they aren't really repairable, so if it still has the same mark on it afterwards it hasn't been changed.
Re: Rear End Shudder when pulling away
Posted: Tue Apr 28, 2009 10:48 pm
by dandywarhol
Re: Rear End Shudder when pulling away
Posted: Tue Apr 28, 2009 10:55 pm
by stilldesperate
Awesome link, Dandy, love the translation of the AFT sleeping arrangements!
-- Will have to try it on the Japanese girls at work
SD
Re: Rear End Shudder when pulling away
Posted: Wed Apr 29, 2009 5:02 am
by wormey
Will this mean that the whole gearbox may have to be changed, or just the VC lump on the end replaced with a new one.
Although under warranty

, how much and how long do they last.
Thanks
Daz