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Haydn Coolant Alarm - Mk3 vs Mk1

Posted: Fri Oct 31, 2008 6:38 pm
by dvisor
Hi - Just a quick question, not a debate about whether I need one or not :) If I take a Mk 3 and chop off the ciggy plug/sockets - will I have a Mk 1 ? I know it sounds like a daft question, but I have my reasons :wink:

Re: Haydn Coolant Alarm

Posted: Fri Oct 31, 2008 6:41 pm
by francophile1947
Am I correct in assuming that you already have a Mk3?
The answer is no, because the alarm is in the ciggie socket bit.

Re: Haydn Coolant Alarm

Posted: Fri Oct 31, 2008 6:44 pm
by dvisor
francophile1947 wrote:Am I correct in assuming that you already have a Mk3?
The answer is no, because the alarm is in the ciggie socket bit.
No, I don't have one yet, but thanks - that answers my question.

Re: Haydn Coolant Alarm - Mk3 vs Mk1

Posted: Fri Oct 31, 2008 10:03 pm
by haydn callow
No !!! you would have 2 bits of a Mk 3 both of which would not be any good .
What a odd question.

Re: Haydn Coolant Alarm - Mk3 vs Mk1

Posted: Fri Oct 31, 2008 10:15 pm
by dvisor
haydn callow wrote:No !!! you would have 2 bits of a Mk 3 both of which would not be any good .
What a odd question.
Not so odd (at least I don't think so). I see on your website the Mk 3s are £68, and the Mk 1 £70. I was thinking about getting the Mk 3, because I couldn't decide whether to wire it in permanently or not. If the cig plug was only providing the power, then I could chop it off later and wire it in permanently, should I so decide. Not having seen one of the alarms I wasn't aware that the alarm was in the cig plug as well. I just like to know my options before I buy anything.

Re: Haydn Coolant Alarm - Mk3 vs Mk1

Posted: Fri Oct 31, 2008 10:33 pm
by haydn callow
Ah ! I see. The Mk 2 and Mk3 are a bit less co's they don't sell so well. They do in fact cost more to produce.
I sell them all at a discount to B/F members. Contact me if you want and Go for a Mk 1.

Re: Haydn Coolant Alarm - Mk3 vs Mk1

Posted: Sat Nov 01, 2008 12:30 am
by Ron Miel
Hello Haydn

Bongo baby will be ours at last next week, and I was about to order a Mark 1, 2 or 3 (?) from you direct, as I see the Bongo Shop is shut for a bit. However, followed your weblink here, and also saw the TM-2 "Engine Watchdog". Looks good. Are you confident about it as a low coolant alarm instead of your own design alarm, or would you recommend fitting both. Silly question perhaps - but, if so, why?

Anybody else already tried the TM-2?

Cheers

Re: Haydn Coolant Alarm - Mk3 vs Mk1

Posted: Sat Nov 01, 2008 12:40 am
by missfixit70
The low coolant alarm is just that - it detects coolant loss. The TM2 is a temperature monitor & alarm, 2 different alarms doing 2 different jobs, each covering different eventualities. There is also the Mason alarm - http://www.townace.plus.com/ie/ietemga2.htm - to consider, that does a similar job to the TM2 by making the Bongo's own "dumbed down" temp guage more sensitive & providing an audible settable alarm.
I have the low coolant alarm & the Mason alarm fitted, & am also trialing a new alarm for Simon Jones that detects overpressure of the coolant system :wink:

Re: Haydn Coolant Alarm - Mk3 vs Mk1

Posted: Sat Nov 01, 2008 12:44 am
by cheffy34
missfixit70 wrote:The low coolant alarm is just that - it detects coolant loss. The TM2 is a temperature monitor & alarm, 2 different alarms doing 2 different jobs, each covering different eventualities. There is also the Mason alarm - http://www.townace.plus.com/ie/ietemga2.htm - to consider, that does a similar job to the TM2 by making the Bongo's own "dumbed down" temp guage more sensitive & providing an audible settable alarm.
I have the low coolant alarm & the Mason alarm fitted, & am also trialing a new alarm for Simon Jones that detects overpressure of the coolant system :wink:

Over pressure :!: something else to buy :roll: take it that detects ,,,,,,,,,,,,,, what :?: apart from the obvious :roll:

Re: Haydn Coolant Alarm - Mk3 vs Mk1

Posted: Sat Nov 01, 2008 12:47 am
by missfixit70
Ejaculations from the header tank :wink:

Re: Haydn Coolant Alarm - Mk3 vs Mk1

Posted: Sat Nov 01, 2008 12:49 am
by Ron Miel
Hi Kirsty

Thanks. Yes, I realise the different modus operandi of the TM-2 but it DOES claim to be an effective coolant loss alarm, so I'm interested in Haydn's own views on that, bearing in mind his own direct low coolant sensor based alarms.

I've also posted separately this evening to ask if anybody knows whether the Mason Alarm works OK in the V6 petrol Bongo. Dave mason doesn't know whether the same sensor/gauge combo is used in the V6 as in TD Bongos. Do you happen to know? Was otherwise going to buy and try (then post results), although the TM-2 has now complicated the issue.

Cheers

David

Re: Haydn Coolant Alarm - Mk3 vs Mk1

Posted: Sat Nov 01, 2008 12:50 am
by cheffy34
missfixit70 wrote:Ejaculations from the header tank :wink:


MSF, i can't think of anything to say :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

Re: Haydn Coolant Alarm - Mk3 vs Mk1

Posted: Sat Nov 01, 2008 12:51 am
by daveblueozzie
missfixit70 wrote:Ejaculations from the header tank :wink:

NO :shock: :oops: TOO EASY.NOT GOING TO ANSWER THAT ONE. [-X

Re: Haydn Coolant Alarm - Mk3 vs Mk1

Posted: Sat Nov 01, 2008 12:53 am
by Bob
Lizard's doing Double Entendres just now. Leave it to him. :D

Re: Haydn Coolant Alarm - Mk3 vs Mk1

Posted: Sat Nov 01, 2008 12:55 am
by cheffy34
Bob wrote:Lizard's doing Double Entendres just now. Leave it to him. :D
Thats why i couldn't think of anything to say, i was still chuckling to myself :lol: