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Intermittent starting fault

Posted: Mon Oct 13, 2008 10:01 pm
by MAXANDPADDY
Can anyone help? Sometimes when I turn the key to start the Bongo, nothing! If turn off and back on again it starts fine. Before I change the stater solenoid, is there a relay in the system I should check? (Batteries fine by the way)

Re: Intermittent starting fault

Posted: Mon Oct 13, 2008 10:39 pm
by You've Been Bongod
no MAXANDPADDY solenoid it is

have you got the kit off ebay £6 ??????

Re: Intermittent starting fault

Posted: Tue Oct 14, 2008 12:44 am
by brorabongo
£6 is good, but does it come with the plunger? which if you look at the latest topic on the subject, you can see that the contact on the plunger gets pitted, plus mine was bent back a bit, which does not help. :roll:


http://www.igmaynard.co.uk/bongo/forum/ ... =3&t=25969

Re: Intermittent starting fault

Posted: Tue Oct 14, 2008 10:13 am
by missfixit70
Yup, not worth doing in my opinion without replacing the plunger judging by the state of mine. If you do want to go that route though, they'll sell you just the contact sets, which includes all the bits & bobs to fit & seal them. Check out the thread Brora highlighted, it's such an easy job guys, don't go for a new starter, not necessary.

Re: Intermittent starting fault

Posted: Tue Oct 14, 2008 1:52 pm
by mikeonb4c
Just as a reminder, did I read this parts replacement will not work on Bongos fitted with the more powerful 'winter pack' (i.e. twin starter batteries) starter motor?

Re: Intermittent starting fault

Posted: Tue Oct 14, 2008 5:41 pm
by missfixit70
I think you're right Mike, but I also seem to recall that the standard starter will replace the bigger cold start one, may be worth putting a shout on the wanted section for anyone who's got a duff one they'd be willing to donate if that is the case?

Re: Intermittent starting fault

Posted: Wed Oct 15, 2008 8:56 pm
by MAXANDPADDY
Thanks for the tips everyone, I'm hoping it lasts a few more days until I can have a proper look.

Re: Intermittent starting fault

Posted: Thu Oct 16, 2008 12:25 am
by brorabongo
MAXANDPADDY wrote:Thanks for the tips everyone, I'm hoping it lasts a few more days until I can have a proper look.
Fingers crossed for you, as mine went quickly, once started to play up. :evil:

Re: Intermittent starting fault

Posted: Thu Oct 16, 2008 12:17 pm
by missfixit70
Mine started playing up wednesday, packed up on the following monday, got maybe 20 starts out of it (some of those hammer assisted) before it gave up completely [-o<

Re: Intermittent starting fault

Posted: Thu Oct 16, 2008 3:13 pm
by bongobong
You've Been Bongod wrote:no MAXANDPADDY solenoid it is

have you got the kit off ebay £6 ??????
Kit? Can't see one on Ebay.

Re: Intermittent starting fault

Posted: Thu Oct 16, 2008 3:25 pm
by francophile1947
I can't see anything on Ebay either, but try these posted by Kirsty "I got the contacts & plunger ordered from Auto electrical Supplies Southampton - 023 80211988"

Re: Intermittent starting fault

Posted: Thu Oct 16, 2008 11:02 pm
by Bob
missfixit70 wrote:Mine started playing up wednesday, packed up on the following monday, got maybe 20 starts out of it (some of those hammer assisted) before it gave up completely [-o<

Well done Kirsty, engineering at it's best. =D>

Re: Intermittent starting fault

Posted: Fri Oct 17, 2008 10:02 am
by bigdaddycain
:lol: And if that doesn't work, simply use a BIGGER hammer! :lol:

That's an interesting point i picked up on kirsty...Would you really advice these re-furb kits for a knacked starter? I'd be so tempted to replace the starter with a new item after taking the trouble to remove it in the first place,does a re-furb kit really make the starter like new again? :)

Re: Intermittent starting fault

Posted: Fri Oct 17, 2008 12:54 pm
by missfixit70
Yep IMO Ste, it took no more than 45 minutes (leisurely :wink: ) to do the job & cost just over £20 for the bits, it starts better/quicker than it did before - not surprising considering the state of the plunger & contacts.

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I reckon it's the original, untampered with starter, so the contacts have taken 12 years to get to that point, even if the replacements last for half that - I'd be happy. It wasn't the starter itself that was knackered - but the starter solenoid & the working bits have all been replaced with the plunger & contacts.
I guess the motor brushes may go at some point, may be worth looking into the possibility of replacing them? but as the starter is only used for a few seconds each time, the motor itself is not actually getting that much use. At the end of the day you could have the starter off in 10 - 15 minutes, not a big issue at all.
Hope that helps to answer your questioning mind :wink:

Re: Intermittent starting fault

Posted: Sat Oct 18, 2008 2:15 am
by bigdaddycain
If it's good enough for you.... :wink:

Gotta be worth having a re-furb kit knocking about the old toolbox then if nothing else?