Bongo Fury

Posted on behalf of member Mark Porter of Mansfield

Have a look at this picture from under driver seat.



After lots of problems, loss of power etc, Mark's mechanic has suggested that the problem is with the plastic part with the plugs, top left of picture. Anyone know what this part is called, or the ref number on Lushprojects?

http://www.lushprojects.com/bongoparts/ ... of03).html


ERRRRRRRRR, can not get link to work right, but it's 1375A Vacuum pump?

Not sure exactly which bit but that's the vacuum pump that serves the EGR (and other bits as well?). Maybe his problem is that the EGR valve is stuck open which could account for the loss of power. I would go for disabling the EGR and see if that makes a difference.

The only link to the turbo in that pic is the rubber pipe which runs horizontally to the right of the picture. Thats the one which tells the pump to give more fuel as the turbo is operating. The pipe is sometimes disconnected at the other end which is a metal pipe.

I like the thinking here i.e. eliminate the usual suspects first. Is Marks mechanic a Bongo man and/or does he/she have good grounds for believing that the plug is the cause? Sometimes a mechanics ego can get ahead of their judgements. Quick story.

My old Nissan Sunny clearly (in my view) had the symptoms of a thermostat stuck open. Temp gauge staying v. low esp. in winter and/or when on the move. In stationary traffic, it would rise up the scale further but still short of normal. I mentioned it to our little (generally v. good) garage, but the Chuck Norris who we dealt with said 'Nah mate, its not that.' My wife enjoyed telling me to shut up and leave it to people who new what they were doing (Chuck Norris know what he was doing alright - he impressed himself on ladies he fancied using his superior powers, and took out any perceived threat using the same powers).

We moved from Surrey to Cheshire. I liked our new local mechanic much more than Chuck (I'm not gay or anything). But even he said 'Nah mate.' After 3 years of being denied, then pecked by the missus I issued an order - JUST DO IT.

The problem vanished. I learned a lesson

What the f#@k are you on today Mike??????????

Hi
I know EXACTLY what Mike means....It was explained to me years ago, that SOME mechanics , qualified or not, are not up to the job....one day, whilst unsupervised, they manage to solve a problem by sheer luck.....as a result, every car to come in after that, has the same problem, regardless of whether they have that problem or not.
I've just had 4 such experts working on my Opel's aircon (Bulgarian regulations...3 to watch, and one to work)....after 4-5 visits they may have fixed it....but I ain't holding my breath.
Cheers
Helen

You mean don't trust mechanics? Absolutely - that's why so many of us do our own maintenance!

I had a feeling Dandy would jump at this one

This is not a criticism of mechanics as a breed. Far from it. It is simply intended (1) as a good yarn and (2) to encourage folk to 'Let the Force be With You' and don't discount your own hunches. If you've ever watched programmes about dodgy builders, you'll know the classic tactic of intimidation used on the gullible and the easily impressed. Mechanics are not immune to this kind of behaviour. One Bongo dealer of note seems to employ it. Life Insurance Salespeople are trained to it. Even 'independent' professionals have been known to practice it.

In the case of the Nissan Sunny it was suggested to me by the second garage that the first one probably wanted to avoid doing it in case they snapped the studs on the stat housing.

mikeonb4c wrote:I had a feeling Dandy would jump at this one

This is not a criticism of mechanics as a breed. Far from it. It is simply intended (1) as a good yarn and (2) to encourage folk to 'Let the Force be With You' and don't discount your own hunches. If you've ever watched programmes about dodgy builders, you'll know the classic tactic of intimidation used on the gullible and the easily impressed. Mechanics are not immune to this kind of behaviour. One Bongo dealer of note seems to employ it. Life Insurance Salespeople are trained to it. Even 'independent' professionals have been known to practice it.

In the case of the Nissan Sunny it was suggested to me by the second garage that the first one probably wanted to avoid doing it in case they snapped the studs on the stat housing.

...............and there lies the crux of the tale.................if they had snapped the studs (and there's less chance of a trained mechanic doing it than the "Trained by Haynes" kerbside enthusiast) then who pays for the more involved repair???

Garage mechanics can't win - when they're young and keen they will do anything to help an owner out - often at a loss to keep folks happy. Then after a while someone shafts them, and again......... Result?? The now jaundiced and wiser mechanic knows exactly who and what kind of jobs are going to be troublesome and as sure as a duck's arse is watertight the owner (who's probably read on a forum somewhere that the job can go pearshaped, witness the "enthusiasts" who've tried to repair a "simple" manifold stud) will demand the job at a knock down price "because YOU broke it"

Been there - got the tee shirt........there's 2 sides to every story - I'm (un)lucky to have seen them both........

Rant over..........

You're right Dandy, and that's why I printed the penultimate chapter. But what - in the final chapter - Chuck Norris should have said was

"Yup, sounds like you have a thermostat stuck open. I'm happy to have a go at changing it, but there is a chance the studs will snap when I do, and that would raise the cost from X pounds to Y pounds. On the other hand, an old lump like this won't suffer much from running cold, though your MPG will be poorer and your heaters won't give their best. Let me know if you want to proceed and I'll do my best."

But Chuck opted not to recite the final chapter. And so I was left a bit Shania Twain


Phew - what am I on indeed!

Thats what I would've said too AND got the customer to sign a disclaimer...........shouldn't have to go to these lengths of course but y'know - once bitten etc...................

dandywarhol wrote:Thats what I would've said too AND got the customer to sign a disclaimer...........shouldn't have to go to these lengths of course but y'know - once bitten etc...................

I've always like the idea that the best racing drivers are the ones who love their machines (so not Nigel Mansell then!). It's a pity the average punter doesn't receive a basic education in what a mechanic actually has to deal with. That way, there would be a better working relationship all round.

Kirsty - you've got shedloads more of it than I have

PS - Oh crap, I'm guilty of having led us way off thread. Sorry Ian. the original post was well intentioned

Off message alert!

In that case the whole post should be off topic alert - the title is Turbo Part and the photo is of the fuel pump - don't know how much further we can go on this one

Still, nice to put the world to right now and then...............