Bongo Fury

OK,
First up i'm not sure this should be in this section or pimp my Bongo, so sorry if it is not meant to be here.
I have a two window closing interface that i want to fit with the immobiliser alarm with internal sensors i just fitted.
In addition i have already installed a central locking activator & control interface. the CL interface being made by the same firm as the main alarm system. i won't say what it is, open forum & all that.. (i'm not even plastering the warning stickers on the window, i wouldn't wanna a would be thief knowing what they are dealing with!)

My question; the diagram for the window closer has additional wires, I suspect for locking. (see below).
Could these be used to close the blinds on locking & opening on deactivation??

Yeah, would be quite cool , wouldn't it!

With my limited electrical knowledge (I suspect there are proper auto electricians on here, of more use to you than me with my 8 year old micro-electronics / software engineering training) I'd say "possibly", depends on the output on those trigger wires.

One assume the module outputs a "close" signal to the window switch wires for a certain period of time, to ensure they fully close before shutting down (or perhaps monitor resistance to determine they're shut when the motor stops turning?)

The "trigger" wires to the locking mechanism, etc, could work in one of two ways I suspect. 1, as above, providing power whilst the windows lock or some other period of time, or 2 (and, I guess, more likely) they're simply trigger / signal wires - more instantaneous.

for the blinds, you'd need something similar to the window closing system.

If it does output power for some time, (long enough to close/open the blinds) then you could simply wire this trigger to a relay (or set of), and from there provide 12v into the blind circuit.

But if the trigger wires just carry a quick "trip" signal, then on their own, they'll not do enough to shut your blinds (they'll judder and move ever so slightly, if anything, may not be quick enough to fully energise the relay).

Assuming the latter, i.e. that it only outputs a "trip" signal, then you'd need that to drive a seperate circuit to provide power for a certain period of time (or, again, to monitor the motors somewhat and determine when to stop) the former is probably doable with a simple timer chip circuit. (2 feeds into circuit, perm 12v/earth & trigger 12vs & earths; trigger kicks off a timer, which provides a 12v output for X seconds, run into a relay to trigger the window blind motors).

There might be some kind of halfrauds circuit which does this for you, or, I suspect, one of the old 1 trillion in 1 electronics kits may have a circuit you could copy & build out of discrete components!

G.

I asked that very question to the people i bought my window closure alarm from jaylee, cos it for 4 windows & you only use 2 of the outputs, i asked if could use the other 2 window closure wires for my mirrors, the techi guy said it can be done when i'm ready i'm to give him a call and he will enlighten me, just haven't got around to it yet

I cant see how it can't work. (providing it's not a quick trip on the non window wires).
The blinds as with the windows have a cut of point when fully open or closed..
In fact so do the mirrors, don't they?
I think there's only one way to find out
Bite the bullet & commence a Johny Ball style experiment!

Although, i wish i bought the four window closer jobie now, they're cheap enough & virtually came the next day!
I'll let you know how i get on..
Off to fix a shed roof now. (more in my league).

I still need to ascertain the live ignition wire for this unit & for the immobilizer component for the alarm. i believe it's the blue one..
A test of the other alarm features work a treat!

Cheers fer yer reply GICarey & cheffy34, to be honest i don't think alot has changed in micro-electronics regarding the components used in the cheap unit i bought to do the job for the windows in the last 8 years! (thas why it was cheap, & if it works...?)

J>

I used to fit Car alarms and window closures.

How they work.
Electric windows run on type of closure so that when the window and motor stops (ie reaching the bottom or the top) the relay switchs of.
It uses a pressure switch so the motor wont burn out .
If you put a can of other object on the window, the window will close till it reaches the object then it will switch of.
Its like a saftey switch.

It will be hard to do this as if you put an object under the electric blind there is no pressure going down on the blinds, so you will have to watch the motor dosnt keep running with the constant power.
Thats if i works this way.
Not to sure how the blinds work on the bongo,

hope this helps,
carl

jaylee wrote:I cant see how it can't work. (providing it's not a quick trip on the non window wires).
The blinds as with the windows have a cut of point when fully open or closed..
In fact so do the mirrors, don't they?
I think there's only one way to find out
Bite the bullet & commence a Johny Ball style experiment!

Although, i wish i bought the four window closer jobie now, they're cheap enough & virtually came the next day!
I'll let you know how i get on..
Off to fix a shed roof now. (more in my league).

I still need to ascertain the live ignition wire for this unit & for the immobilizer component for the alarm. i believe it's the blue one..
A test of the other alarm features work a treat!

Cheers fer yer reply GICarey & cheffy34, to be honest i don't think alot has changed in micro-electronics regarding the components used in the cheap unit i bought to do the job for the windows in the last 8 years! (thas why it was cheap, & if it works...?)

J>

You be sure to let me know if it works I may have a crack if i get the garden sorted this week Missus has plenty lined up for me while i'm on me hols

I will indeed cheffy,
To be honest, i have a few garden jobs lined up fer me too.. patio & decking, the annual ivy removal from the garage roof... got the double glazing dudes coming on Thursday, plus i got a gig in Rochester the same day!

Like i say to my partner.. "A mans gotta have a hobby"!
Lucky she sees Rock & Roll as a religion..

J>