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Handbrake, Rear Shoes needed.

Posted: Tue Sep 04, 2007 6:23 pm
by bmt
Replaced pads all round today and found that a rear knocking noise was a Anti roll bar clamp broken so replaced that aswell.

Still have no Handbrake and upon further inspection I see they have no meat left on them so peplacements are needed any ideas where from and how much?

None in the shop for sale.

Thanks Dave

Posted: Tue Sep 04, 2007 6:32 pm
by Ralph
they seem to be a horrific price at dealers but if you
have a motorcycle dealer nr you that does old brit
stuff they may be able to get them relined much
cheaper.

ps £105 at one place thats a lot of brass for brake shoes.

Posted: Tue Sep 04, 2007 9:00 pm
by dandywarhol
Good idea Ralph, some of the Motor Factors who deal with vans and trucks might do it too.
Don't understand why they're worn out when it's a parking brake - unless it's being used for handbrake turns :?

Posted: Tue Sep 04, 2007 10:07 pm
by pippin
Allan's (Doone) did mine a couple of years ago - £65 inc labour! Bargain it seems.

Posted: Tue Sep 04, 2007 10:18 pm
by David Edwards
Got to be worth asking at your local motor factors, I went to ours yesterday for an oil filter and was told there was no probs re parts now and the filter was £9.99 and was a mazda part, went on today no prob at all. Happy motoring.

Posted: Wed Sep 05, 2007 12:27 am
by bigdaddycain
dandywarhol wrote: Don't understand why they're worn out when it's a parking brake - unless it's being used for handbrake turns :?
I still to this day travel a sizeable distance with the handbrake still half on :shock: It usually occurs when ive released it a bit sharpish when traffic lights have turned green...

I only display this trait with the bongo strangely... :?

Posted: Wed Sep 05, 2007 7:35 am
by Veg_Ian
Don't understand why they're worn out when it's a parking brake - unless it's being used for handbrake turns
I'm inclined to agree but note that the linings on mine are pretty thin and I've marked it for attention for my next service. I'm hoping my local factors still offer a relining service as I don't fancy paying the silly amounts quoted on here.

Posted: Mon Sep 10, 2007 4:23 am
by Duncan
i had to replace mine, £100. Ihave kept the olds ones, to get get relined
if ifs cheap,

Posted: Mon Sep 10, 2007 4:57 pm
by bmt
OK now done and what a nightmare.

Had the old ones relined and the discs would not go back on (lining far to thick)

Spent hours grinding them down, swearing and throwing things around my workshop.

Ended up buying new rear discs and shoes, and they have very little lining on them from new.

Anyway put them on and got my MOT and now much calmer and happier.

I also replaced a broken rear anti roll bar bracket and worn front droplinks and wow what a nice ride and big differance, cheap aswell.

So if you have the occasional knock from underneath it might not be as bad as you think it took about an hour to change them over, just a shame the rear shoes were not so easy!!!!!!

Posted: Mon Sep 10, 2007 5:43 pm
by mikeonb4c
Yipes bmt - are you saying that even if you get offerd a relining service, be very wary as they will not be able to line them with the thin lining required. Maybe that explains the cost of the new ones :cry:

Posted: Mon Sep 10, 2007 8:44 pm
by bmt
Its worth checking, I have an account with a local parts shop and was charged Twenty pounds for all 4 shoes which was peanuts against the cost of new ones but the linings were double the thickness to the genuine ones.

Posted: Mon Sep 10, 2007 8:54 pm
by francophile1947
Handbrake shoe linings are never very thick - they don't need to be because, under normal circumstances, there is no wear on them. They generally disintegrate through old age.

Posted: Mon Sep 10, 2007 10:26 pm
by bmt
I will say this, when you remove the drum/disc and look at the shoes there are the 2 springs top and bottom connecting both shoes and a smaller spring just above the bottom one.

In my case this had been put on the wrong side causing the shoes to not sit in the centre and cause excesive wear to the leading shoe and inner drum.

It will fit either side but worth making sure they are central before refitting the disc and caliper.

Posted: Mon Sep 10, 2007 11:43 pm
by mikeonb4c
I think I must check mine before the MOT, but hoping I dont upset them unduly just by taking the drum off :?

Posted: Tue Sep 11, 2007 7:54 am
by Veg_Ian
Interesting you say the linings are thinner than usual BMT. If that's the case then maybe mine have a lot more life in them than I originally thought. I suppose it's too late to ask now but it would be worth knowing the thickness of the lining from new so that it's possible to work out exactly by how much mine have worn.