Re: Pipe - expansion tank to heater circuit return
Posted: Sun Jun 19, 2011 1:41 am
Mike, the way I see the difference between the Toyota patent and the Bongo is that the Toyota system is primarily designed to overcome latent heat problems when stationary in traffic or when switched off after a run with a 'mid' engine i.e. Luceda, Estima.
They have plenty of head problems to, they also fit the stat in the bottom hose.
Mazda chose to try a different route.
Did they succeed?
I think they hoped the bleed pipe would contain excess air, may be the reason for its length?
IMHO no, why, because the engine position from an engineer's perspective is a ba**s up.
As a package it is a brilliant use of space.
Fig. 2 In the patent shows a vapour pipe rising to the degassing tank, if in reality you could do that you would have a natural upward path from the engine to the radiator for the main coolant pipe allowing a natural convection path as per the 'old days' negating the need for the patent.
They have plenty of head problems to, they also fit the stat in the bottom hose.
Mazda chose to try a different route.
Did they succeed?
I think they hoped the bleed pipe would contain excess air, may be the reason for its length?
IMHO no, why, because the engine position from an engineer's perspective is a ba**s up.
As a package it is a brilliant use of space.
Fig. 2 In the patent shows a vapour pipe rising to the degassing tank, if in reality you could do that you would have a natural upward path from the engine to the radiator for the main coolant pipe allowing a natural convection path as per the 'old days' negating the need for the patent.
