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Re: Easy Cooling System Filling

Posted: Sat Jul 05, 2008 10:00 pm
by brorabongo
well....... I suppose to 8 key is beside the 7 key, so it's easily done. :-"

Re: Easy Cooling System Filling

Posted: Sat Jul 05, 2008 10:12 pm
by Peg leg Pete
Yep that must be what happened :roll: :roll: :roll:

Re: Easy Cooling System Filling

Posted: Sat Jul 05, 2008 10:35 pm
by lizard
We all know that bongos cannot reach the heady speed of 80 mph :wink:

Re: Easy Cooling System Filling

Posted: Sun Jul 06, 2008 6:59 pm
by Peg leg Pete
I have been thinking about a cheaper alternative to the piece of equipment that I borrowed. I wonder if a modified expansion cap could be fitted with a neoprene hose and using a garden spray type pressurised container, the coolant could be pumped into the system ? It would have to be a minimum 10 litre container to deliver the correct amount of pre-mixed coolant :wink:

Re: Easy Cooling System Filling

Posted: Wed Jul 09, 2008 6:19 pm
by Peg leg Pete
Thought Mike would have replied to this thread, he likes playing with neoprene tubing :wink: :wink:

Re: Easy Cooling System Filling

Posted: Wed Jul 09, 2008 7:42 pm
by haydn callow
From your description of your method and the time taken, it sounds as though you did not get the thermostat to open during the bleeding (bottom hose hot). Does getting pressure into the system make this unnecessary ?? If this is the case, a easy way to pressurize the system is to ge a old (or new) "high pressure innertube off a bike, remove the valve, this will now screw nicely into the header tank overflow outlet. Then, useing a pump you can get it up to any pressure you want. When finished take the valve out and all is back to normal.
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Re: Easy Cooling System Filling

Posted: Wed Jul 09, 2008 7:47 pm
by Peg leg Pete
Sounds good Haydn :wink: I think the thermostat allows the coolant and air through the small jiggle hole.

Re: Easy Cooling System Filling

Posted: Wed Jul 09, 2008 7:59 pm
by haydn callow
Some after market stats do not have a jiggle pin/hole. This could be a problem if you are not aware of the type of stat fitted.

Re: Easy Cooling System Filling

Posted: Wed Jul 09, 2008 8:02 pm
by Peg leg Pete
Good point :wink: I fit last thermostat-it has the jiggle hole :)

Re: Easy Cooling System Filling

Posted: Wed Jul 09, 2008 8:36 pm
by mikeonb4c
Peg leg Pete wrote:Thought Mike would have replied to this thread, he likes playing with neoprene tubing :wink: :wink:
I am here, Oh Legless One. Brainbox is surprisingly empty on this one though as I can't get my head around it. I'd love bleeding to be painless but need to be confident that the chosen method works and doesn't cost £70 for a once every 2 years (if I'm a good boy) job. Last time I did it, it came out fine and my only note to self was get someone (Will) to top up coolant while I attended to the bleed pipe. I nearly had a coronary running to and fro from header tank to bleed pipe last time, trying to make sure coolant level didn't drop too low :?

Re: Easy Cooling System Filling

Posted: Wed Jul 09, 2008 8:57 pm
by Peg leg Pete
Mike this method is much more relaxed :wink: I did it single handed :wink: £70.00 if shared between members would be peanuts :)

Re: Easy Cooling System Filling

Posted: Wed Jul 09, 2008 9:07 pm
by haydn callow
Having reread your method..I carn't get my head round the fact that putting a bit of pressure into the header tank will make any differance to the normal bleeding process. I can understand that creating a vacuum would have a effect but not pressure.
What is the science behind the idea.
I could be being a bit thick here.
Posted this once but it vanished,

Re: Easy Cooling System Filling

Posted: Wed Jul 09, 2008 9:23 pm
by Peg leg Pete
Haydn I pumped the coolant through the system, It worked, not sure of the science- vacuum pulls the coolant, pumping pushes the coolant.

Re: Easy Cooling System Filling

Posted: Wed Jul 09, 2008 9:27 pm
by mikeonb4c
haydn callow wrote:Having reread your method..I carn't get my head round the fact that putting a bit of pressure into the header tank will make any differance to the normal bleeding process. I can understand that creating a vacuum would have a effect but not pressure.
What is the science behind the idea.
I could be being a bit thick here.
Posted this once but it vanished,
I wish I could put it across like Haydn does. I think that is what's bothering me. But you are right Pete. Bongoing is a hobby and making DIY servicing fun is worthy of a little outlay. Maybe its the sense of having mastered a dark art that makes me want to persevere with the old traditional method. A kind of 'unplugged gig' for Bongo servicing fanatics. :lol: :lol: :lol:

Re: Easy Cooling System Filling

Posted: Wed Jul 09, 2008 9:34 pm
by haydn callow
Pete...don't get me wrong .. I expect all is now well..however (there is always a "however" with me) I would like to know that since you did the work the Stat has opened and the bottom hose has got HOT. If this has happened without having to top up much then I'm convinced. If this hasn't happened then I would be super careful and watch the temp like a hawk.