loss of power when warm

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Post by fordavefreda » Tue Jan 09, 2007 9:41 pm

just got some advice off a mate, he reckons that the thermostat may be stuck, meaning the engine thinks its cold so the ecu won't let it rev. this being for turbo powered engines. do know about diesels :?

could this be correct?

regards dave
BongoBish

Post by BongoBish » Tue Jan 09, 2007 10:31 pm

How about a hairline crack in the cylinder head, or dodgy valves? I know this sounds bad but could be, had a similar problem with a friends Landy many years ago.
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Post by mikeonb4c » Tue Jan 09, 2007 10:34 pm

I didnt like to say it BongoBish but since you bravely have - got to admit it has to be considered as a possibility. Any Bongo Tribal Elders care to comment? :? :?
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Post by mick » Tue Jan 09, 2007 11:25 pm

dandywarhol wrote:You're right Mick......................it is a very long shot - so long you've missed the runway :wink:

Battery charging will have no effect on a diesel's running
I stand corrected and humbled :oops: But have you tried .... nah :lol:
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Post by dandywarhol » Tue Jan 09, 2007 11:48 pm

It's hard to keep a straight face reasoning with a man in a blue suit.......... :wink:
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Post by mikeonb4c » Tue Jan 09, 2007 11:50 pm

Made me laugh. Be quiet Dandy you muppet :lol: :lol:
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Post by bigdaddycain » Wed Jan 10, 2007 1:55 am

Im no mechanic, but it sounds like its seriously overfueling when warm. I know extra fuel is chucked in until warm(tickover is higher when cold) Is it black smoke that comes out when its revved,then dies? Again this points to overfueling. Dunno if the bongo has lambda sensors or an amal valve, but i bet its something silly causing the problem, your best bet would be trying to get it to a local diesel specialist,otherwise you could end up spending a fortune on replacement parts that you may not need. Diesels are quite simple engines,any reputable diesel mechanic worth his salt should be able to diagnose the problem straight away,before the running problem causes some serious damage elsewhere, it cant be doing your bongo much good running it like that,get it checked out fordavefreda, let us know what was up with her....
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Post by mikeonb4c » Wed Jan 10, 2007 10:20 am

Maybe Wellhouse Leisure might point you to a Bongo mechanic in your part of the world?
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Post by fordavefreda » Thu Jan 11, 2007 6:06 pm

cheers for all your help guys i have now solved the problem :D

i guessed there was a lack of fuel getting to the injector pump, so having changed the fuel filter and not seeing any difference i went down the route of buying a fresh can of diesel and putting the fuel pipe to the injector in said can of diesel it ran smoothly and revved freely. i borrowed an old 12v fuel pump and emptyed the tank and flushed out the fuel lines, added fresh diesel to the tank and all is well, a job that only took me an hour!

if any of you eagle eyed people may have noticed i had put petrol in and posted a request on here as to what to do, i went down the route of just topping it up and all was well i thought i was well rid of the infected fuel maybe i was wrong.............:oops:

thanks again for all your ideas and happy motoring
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Post by Bumbly1 » Thu Jan 11, 2007 6:11 pm

fordavefreda wrote:cheers for all your help guys i have now solved the problem :D

i guessed there was a lack of fuel getting to the injector pump, so having changed the fuel filter and not seeing any difference i went down the route of buying a fresh can of diesel and putting the fuel pipe to the injector in said can of diesel it ran smoothly and revved freely. i borrowed an old 12v fuel pump and emptyed the tank and flushed out the fuel lines, added fresh diesel to the tank and all is well, a job that only took me an hour!

if any of you eagle eyed people may have noticed i had put petrol in and posted a request on here as to what to do, i went down the route of just topping it up and all was well i thought i was well rid of the infected fuel maybe i was wrong.............:oops:

thanks again for all your ideas and happy motoring
Erm you could have mentioned that before! :shock:
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Post by dandywarhol » Thu Jan 11, 2007 7:36 pm

Whaddya mean Tom - you're not psychic like the rest of us?????.....must be something drained from you by going Teutonic....... :wink:
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Post by Bumbly1 » Thu Jan 11, 2007 8:16 pm

dandywarhol wrote:Whaddya mean Tom - you're not psychic like the rest of us?????.....must be something drained from you by going Teutonic....... :wink:
Oh dear is the Bongo effect leaving me, no more hot flushes then :oops:
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Post by mikeonb4c » Thu Jan 11, 2007 8:37 pm

Wow, what a fantastic tale. A bit like a sort of Advanced Bongoist Certification Test or sommat. V glad it is sort on the cheap fordafreda - the Bongos reputation remains undiminished :lol: :lol:
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Post by emac » Fri Jan 12, 2007 3:12 pm

re loss of power when warm I was going to suggest taking off yer vest may have helped :idea:
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Post by Vanmanerik » Fri Jan 12, 2007 4:32 pm

I ain't gonna say 'told you so' but you were offered good advice on what to do when you put petrol in the diesel tank.
So now you ought to check your oil to see if that has been contaminated with petrol as unburnt petrol can get past the piston rings and dribble into the sump.
You may have damaged the rubber seals in the injection pump but I do not have a cle how you can check this out only if you have it completely overhauled.
Best of luck.
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