Bongo Fury

Hi all

Have spoken to garage.

The oil leak is from the rocker cover gasket, they changed the plugs, sadly hesitation is still present.

Tomorrow they will look at the dizzy and leads. They are hoping its not the distributor as this could be ££££££££££

Original dealer is aware of the situation and I have asked him to phone the garage to discuss the situation. He did not seem to have an issue with this and apologised for the issues that we are having.

If the saga continues, I will get the Bongo over to him and take his offer of a courtesy car.

So they we are, a week into Bongo ownership and its all gone *** up !!

All the best

Nick & Family

It will be worth it trust me Once he`s purring like a pussy it will be the best motor you have bought Goes like a b###h , sounds like a reeeeeeeeeeeeal engine , looks cool and is as usefull as a mmmmmmmmmmmmmmm usefull thing .

Is it hesitant as in feels like/sounds like missfire, or just not pulling but feels like it kinda wants to if ya get me

Hi

Garage described it as hesitant at around 60 mph. Pulling back on itself.

My experience was out all day on Sunday, drove like a dream.

When we pulled onto our drive it just did not feel right, felt like it was trying to move forward, the rev counter was moving slightly up and down, increasing and decreasing the revs.

So I took it out for another spin, it was hesitating, most noticeable around 60 mph, I though it was going to cut out, the rev counter again was moving up and down, not by huge amounts but enough to make think that was why it was pulling back. (It was loosing power for split second then going back on and then would repeat the cycle.

There was a noticeable shortage of power going up a hill near me.

If it was running on batteries, I would assume that the batteries were starting to run out !

I also think its heat related, as it seems worse when warmed up.

Thats the best I can describe it.


Once again, many thanks for all your replies.

I just hope we can get to the bottom of it soon.

Nick & Family

Hi all

Dealer phoned today and said to collect Bongo from Bongo garage and deliver to his own garage.
Would arrange courtesy car. He would also phone Bongo garage to discuss.

Get a call back a few minutes later, he has authorised them to replace the dizzy cap, however they have not got one and it could take a week to get one ! He tells them to try someone else that he knows.

He confirmed that he would call later today and will confirm whats going on after he has spoken to garage. Sadly no call has been received.

To say that I am not enjoying Bongo ownership is an understatement.

Its now getting to the point where I dont want it and will ask for a refund.

All, only after a week of ownership.


All the best

Nick & Family

Delboymel wrote:Its now getting to the point where I dont want it and will ask for a refund.

That's a shame - you should have stuck to this http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Only-Fools-and-Ho ... 3efa29276c

Hi all

Spoke to the garage, they have put a new cap and arm on, sadly no difference.

Supplying dealer would now like the Bongo in his own preferred garage which is fair enough.

So will go and pick it up, settle the £100 invoice and then on Saturday take it back to the dealer.

Lets hope they can sort it.

The leads have been checked and are ok.

So whats next !

All the best

NIck & Family

Its a long shot but I had a similar symptom and it was some sort of heater switch temperature regulator thingy (sorry cant remember what its called) took ages for them to discover it and luckily they had another v6 there so were able to try the one from that before ordering a replacement.


Dont give up - I had loads of issues and no dealer warranty but it is worthy it (ask Mister Munkey!)

Delboymel wrote:Hi all

Spoke to the garage, they have put a new cap and arm on, sadly no difference.

Supplying dealer would now like the Bongo in his own preferred garage which is fair enough.

So will go and pick it up, settle the £100 invoice and then on Saturday take it back to the dealer.

Lets hope they can sort it.

The leads have been checked and are ok.

So whats next !

All the best

NIck & Family

Crazy! Don't lose heart though. Bongos are great cars and the problem seems to be to me that its the mechanics that have been of questionable greatness so far. Once its sorted (which it should be before summer) you sould be able to settle down to the joys of cruising in a Bongo.

Good luck

PS - where are you located by the way? You're missing a big trick if you don't put it on your profile as people can't steer you towards a local expert(s)

Hi all

We are located in Lytchett Matravers Poole Dorset

The garage I have just picked it up from advertises on here !!

They are now convinced its the distributor.

Anyway, have to take it back to the dealer on Saturday.

Drove home, started to hesitate when under load, then would go and be ok and then start to hesitate again. Could get round it a little bit by dropping down a gear ??

I am no expert, but I am thinking fuel filter ??

Dealer has also agreed to replace leaking rocker cover gasket.

Nick & Family

Delboymel wrote:Hi all

We are located in Lytchett Matravers Poole Dorset

The garage I have just picked it up from advertises on here !!

They are now convinced its the distributor.

Anyway, have to take it back to the dealer on Saturday.

Drove home, started to hesitate when under load, then would go and be ok and then start to hesitate again. Could get round it a little bit by dropping down a gear ??

I am no expert, but I am thinking fuel filter ??

Dealer has also agreed to replace leaking rocker cover gasket.

Nick & Family

Hi Nick,I would tend to agree with you it is looking more like a fuel related problem.

Hi all

Just to update you.

Drove it today and the hesitation did not hit until 60 mph, above and below this it seemed to be fine. I would say it seems to be improved since the dizzy cap and rota.

Anyway thought I would have a look at the drivers side oily bits.

Yes there is an oil leak from the rocker cover, not loads but enough to weep down into the spark plug well.

The autobox fluid appeared to be good with no funny smells or discolouration.

The hoses seemed ok, apart from the big one by the drivers knee which was a bit chalky at one end, which suggests a weep.
I would imagine it needs a new clip. Will ask the dealer to replace whilst its with him.

Anyway, fingers crossed that we get it back next week running fine and dandy.

On its first tank of fuel it averaged 25mpg, not too bad for a V6.

All the best

Nick & Family

Delboymel wrote: Yes there is an oil leak from the rocker cover, not loads but enough to weep down into the spark plug well.


apart from the big one by the drivers knee which was a bit chalky at one end, which suggests a weep.

Hi Nick the oil leak is quite common in that area and is normally the EGR which is causing the leak, a quick search will bring up loads of info

As for the hose?, can you see crusty bits on the edge ect?, new hoses generally have a chalky covering over them, are you sure its not a hose thats been changed in the past?

Hi

Yes it is chalky bits on the end that goes into the engine. Looks like dried up coolant. Not loads but enough to indicate a small weep.

Had the same on a Vauxhall Vectra and the main dealer said " They all do that sir ". Just google coolant loss on Vauxhalls !!

The oil weep is more apparent at the back end of the engine.

Kind Regards

Nick & Family

Hi all

The Bongo has decided to behave !

It must have known it was on its way to the dealers.

Drove no problem all day today.

Still went to the dealer, he asked me to continue with it until the problem persists. I couldn't really disagree as their was no fault to show him.

I showed him the oil weep, I knew before hand that he wouldn't be too worried about it as it was hardly noticeable. Also showed him the hose that had the white residue at the end. Whilst he didn't play it down, he didn't think it was a problem.

However should the above become an issue then he will look after me, even after the warranty period.

He has been around on his site for over 20 years doing Japanese Imports, so I dont see any reason to not believe him.

Therefore a combination of spark plugs, new cap, rota and leads all removed and checked must have achieved something. Anyway lets hope.


Nick & Family

I would still be suspicious of the leads, they are very hard to test without proper test gear.

I was sold a vw camper, it started to misfire, the seller had said the leads had been changed, I went round the houses check/changing other stuff, and eventually fitted new leads which cured the misfire - the guy had lied to me!

It could be that it is ok when the air is dry, but damp weather makes the air more conductive, and liable to shorting out the leads.

It there any possibility there might be a small hose leak which only shows up when warm, this might be shorting out the lead?

Hesitation under load is a classic sign of poor ignition leads.

On your original post you mention the rev counter fluctuating, where is that driven from as that may be a clue?