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Re: Silicone Hoses.

Posted: Fri Nov 06, 2009 11:38 pm
by hembramacho
missfixit70 wrote:The link posted by hembramacho is a new supplier, only seems to have the 4 large hoses, Flippa was selling the full sets (well 14 anyway), but not sure if he still is - http://stores.shop.ebay.co.uk/silicone- ... QQ_armrsZ1 might be worth giving him a shout.
Bear in mind there are 17 hoses in all, so buying 4 is all very well but sods law dictates it'll be one of the others that you'll need to replace, ie bleed hose or the one over the starter down to the heater.
17 hoses!! Why are only 4 being advertised and sold???

Andrew

Re: Silicone Hoses.

Posted: Fri Nov 06, 2009 11:41 pm
by Doone
I haven't looked at the advert, but they might be selling the 4 hoses that blow most often?

Re: Silicone Hoses.

Posted: Fri Nov 06, 2009 11:44 pm
by missfixit70
It's the 4 big ones - engine to rad & back again to the stat, so no, not necessarily the most common ones :roll:

Re: Silicone Hoses.

Posted: Fri Nov 06, 2009 11:45 pm
by missfixit70
hembramacho wrote:
missfixit70 wrote:The link posted by hembramacho is a new supplier, only seems to have the 4 large hoses, Flippa was selling the full sets (well 14 anyway), but not sure if he still is - http://stores.shop.ebay.co.uk/silicone- ... QQ_armrsZ1 might be worth giving him a shout.
Bear in mind there are 17 hoses in all, so buying 4 is all very well but sods law dictates it'll be one of the others that you'll need to replace, ie bleed hose or the one over the starter down to the heater.
17 hoses!! Why are only 4 being advertised and sold???

Andrew
Ask the seller that one :wink: I bet they don't even know themselves.
The 4 large ones are perceived to be the ones most likely to go, but this ain't necessarily so, the bleed hose & the one over the starter are number 2 & 3 as likely as the top hose coming out of the engine to the rad.
At the end of the day, all the hoses are the same age, so if one goes, it makes sense that they should all be replaced asap.

Re: Silicone Hoses.

Posted: Fri Nov 06, 2009 11:48 pm
by hembramacho
OMG - can of worms!!

How many actual hoses do I need to replace with silicone ones to ensure safety?

Andrew

Re: Silicone Hoses.

Posted: Fri Nov 06, 2009 11:53 pm
by Doone
Not the common ones then. :) Yes definitley ask a few questions, or buy elswhere.

Hah, how longs a piece of red tape... you may not need to replace any. :) But as fas as I know, the hoses that most commonly blow are 1. the one to the radiator to the engine (under the drivers seat), 2. the one above the starter, 3. the bleed hose, 4. the hose from the head to the thermostat housing, 5, 6. the 2 turbo coolant hoses, and 7. the one from the thermostat housing to the heater pipe.

Re: Silicone Hoses.

Posted: Fri Nov 06, 2009 11:55 pm
by missfixit70
hembramacho wrote:OMG - can of worms!!

How many actual hoses do I need to replace with silicone ones to ensure safety?

Andrew

As above - all of them.
If Flippa still does the set of 14, ask for an extra bleed hose if possible, this can then be cut int 3 to do the 3 he doesn't do, the 2 to the turbo & the return hose from the expansion tank if I remember right.
Bear in mind also with the silicon, you'll need decent hose clips, not the usual cheap crap that'll cut into the silicon & don't overtighten them.
Ignorance is bliss :wink: Bet you wish you'd never asked now :lol: :lol:

Re: Silicone Hoses.

Posted: Fri Nov 06, 2009 11:57 pm
by missfixit70
Doone wrote:Not the common ones then. :) Yes definitley ask a few questions, or buy elswhere.

Hah, how longs a piece of red tape... you may not need to replace any. :) But as far as I know, the hoses that most commonly blow are 1. the one to the radiator to the engine (under the drivers seat), 2. the one above the starter, 3. the bleed hose, 4. the hose from the head to the thermostat housing, 5, 6. the 2 turbo coolant hoses, and 7. the one from the thermostat housing to the heater pipe.
I was a bit slow there :wink: :lol: I wasn't aware of the turbo ones being an issue, that is interesting, glad I made mine from the silicon now.

Re: Silicone Hoses.

Posted: Sat Nov 07, 2009 12:00 am
by Doone
Sometimes it's better safe than sorry. :wink: Yes the turbo ones eventually harden and pop.

Re: Silicone Hoses.

Posted: Sat Nov 07, 2009 12:00 am
by hembramacho
missfixit70 wrote:
hembramacho wrote:OMG - can of worms!!

How many actual hoses do I need to replace with silicone ones to ensure safety?

Andrew

As above - all of them.
If Flippa still does the set of 14, ask for an extra bleed hose if possible, this can then be cut int 3 to do the 3 he doesn't do, the 2 to the turbo & the return hose from the expansion tank if I remember right.
Bear in mind also with the silicon, you'll need decent hose clips, not the usual cheap crap that'll cut into the silicon & don't overtighten them.
Ignorance is bliss :wink: Bet you wish you'd never asked now :lol: :lol:
I'll pour myself another glass of wine and consider my options I think!

Andrew

Re: Silicone Hoses.

Posted: Sat Nov 07, 2009 12:03 am
by missfixit70
Doone wrote:Sometimes it's better safe than sorry. :wink: Yes the turbo ones eventually harden and pop.
I suppose that makes sense given their proximity to the exhaust manifold.

Re: Silicone Hoses.

Posted: Sat Nov 07, 2009 12:06 am
by hembramacho
missfixit70 wrote:
Doone wrote:Sometimes it's better safe than sorry. :wink: Yes the turbo ones eventually harden and pop.
I suppose that makes sense given their proximity to the exhaust manifold.
Please don't mention the exhaust manfold.........

Andrew

Re: Silicone Hoses.

Posted: Sat Nov 07, 2009 12:10 am
by missfixit70
hembramacho wrote:
missfixit70 wrote:
Doone wrote:Sometimes it's better safe than sorry. :wink: Yes the turbo ones eventually harden and pop.
I suppose that makes sense given their proximity to the exhaust manifold.
Please don't mention the exhaust manfold.........

Andrew

:lol: :lol: :P

Re: Silicone Hoses.

Posted: Sat Nov 07, 2009 9:41 am
by daveblueozzie
hembramacho wrote:
missfixit70 wrote:Stat - thermostat, just the one :wink:
Forgive me for asking, but why is a new thermostat needed?

Andrew
If you think about it, the thermostat has been working its little nuts off for the last 12/13 years or so.
it may not even be working ,or even stuck open. when you change the hoses your gonna have to drop the coolant ,you may as well change the stat , around £14 on ebay.
and like Kirsty says clean the radiator out. (just like me and bigdaddy are going to do on Monday).

Re: Silicone Hoses.

Posted: Sat Nov 07, 2009 11:59 am
by mikeonb4c
daveblueozzie wrote:
hembramacho wrote:
missfixit70 wrote:Stat - thermostat, just the one :wink:
Forgive me for asking, but why is a new thermostat needed?

Andrew
If you think about it, the thermostat has been working its little nuts off for the last 12/13 years or so.
it may not even be working ,or even stuck open. when you change the hoses your gonna have to drop the coolant ,you may as well change the stat , around £14 on ebay.
and like Kirsty says clean the radiator out. (just like me and bigdaddy are going to do on Monday).
I agree 10000% - I've had this niggling feeling that more than one overheat might have been contributed to, if not caused by, a dodgy thermostart. When I changed mine, the time for temp gauge to move off the stops changed from 10 mins after start to 5 mins after start. This told me that although the old one may have been within OK parameters, it was not fully fit. What the hell happens if for some reason the jolly old thing decides not to open. Hell happens, thats what happens :lol: :? :( :cry: :evil: #-o 8)