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Re: Intermittent problem with my Bongo

Posted: Sun Apr 26, 2009 11:14 am
by scanner
Trouble at t'Mill wrote:Interesting!

Something to consider is that the Bongo was never available from a Mazda dealer in this country, so having it imported from Japan is hardly depriving the local Mazda dealer of a sale! So they shouldn't have their noses put out of joint. I wonder if the same applies in Brunei? Ie: if the Bongo could have been bought from a Mazda dealer in that country, then I can imagine them being reluctant to sort out an import. But if not...

However, as for product recalls, surely as long as the recall is valid for the duration of the vehicle's life they are obliged to repair it regardless of which country you are in? Eg: Say you bought your Bongo in the 'normal' way from a Mazda dealer in a country where it was available, and then moved to live in another country where the Bongo was not available directly from Mazda - would that absolve them from responsibility to fix your car under a recall notice? I don't think so. And importing these cars is a completely legal process.

Imagine if this was a SAFETY issue (and the problem with autobox solenoids could very well be - that link mentions it could cause the car to move forwards when not asked to!). Are Mazda really going to say we ain't going to fix it just because the car isn't in the country of original sale?! If you bought a car in France and then moved with it to Germany, would - say - Peugeot Germany tell you they won't fix your 'safety recall' brakes 'cos you didn't buy it from their local dealer? Nah.

So, if this item falls under a recall notice, and that notice is still valid (eg in Japan), then I don't see Mazda have any alternative but to sort it. Whether in Britain or Brunei.
Even more exactly the point I was making - the matter is one for Mazda, not for the local dealer, to sort out.
I'd contact Mazda Brunei
http://www.mazda.com/d-list/asia_pacific.html

If they won't help try Mazda Japan.

Re: Intermittent problem with my Bongo

Posted: Mon Apr 27, 2009 1:03 pm
by bikers21
DemonAV wrote:mmmm... Mazda Russia say that gray import is not Mazda Russia problem. It is owner problem. And that is all. 21 century!
About solenoids:
recall pic: http://www.mlit.go.jp/jidosha/recall/re ... 08-251.gif
Pic from parts program: http://www.lushprojects.com/bongopartsm ... mgno=.html look 21-1D1
It is easy to replace without garage.
Thanks for the info..
Have to bring down my autogear box or just the oil pan to look for the solenoid.
Can i order online the solenoid?

Thanks
BruneiBongo

Re: Intermittent problem with my Bongo

Posted: Mon Apr 27, 2009 2:16 pm
by DemonAV
bikers21 wrote: Have to bring down my autogear box or just the oil pan to look for the solenoid.
Can i order online the solenoid?
Bring down oil pan to look for the solenoid.
From manual (I translated from Japanise factory manual for 99- Friendee):
http://www.demonav.ru/For_work/pages%20 ... 20(99).png

I don't know about online order in Brunei. In Russia you can, in UK you can, but in Brunei... Try it. Ask mazda dealer. His parts number is BW01211D1 (cost in Russia around 50-60 USD).