Bongo Fury

The Great Pretender wrote:Sounds like a fun pointless tweek on a Bongo. Some intercoolers are chocolate firegards and the cooling they give is negated by the reduction in boost. More important is the lowest pressure drop for the highest reduction in temperature.
How about using a methanol spray to enhance power and reduce charge temp?

How about fitting Nitrous Oxide Cheffy?

Strange enough it has crossed my mind cheap aswell now in kit form aren't they progressive now and run by the ecu I am good at cooking things how about slow roasted gearbox, potato dauphinoise, braised cabbage and sweet plum jus iv'e always wanted to do ready steady cook

but that really could be fun fun fun


Got me thinking again

A supercharged V6 would be nice in your bongo cheffy...The engine is originally from a mazda 929, the yanks used to supercharge that block with quite pleasant results!

Scanner... I don't suppose you daughter fancies swapping the cossie for a green freetop??

bigdaddycain wrote: Scanner... I don't suppose you daughter fancies swapping the cossie for a green freetop??

Nope...

I told her that she and her partner really needed a Bongo now they have a baby as well as the two Boxer dogs - but no, they went out and traded the Jeep Grand Cherokee they had for an X5 instead.

So all they have now is.

X5
Escort Cosworth
'71 Beetle
Punto JTD
Works Kangoo van
916 Ducati
ZXR400
& some Suzuki or other

The Escort is her toy (500miles between MOT's last year) and will be the last to go - if you ever saw the "Wrong Car Right Car" with the girl who wanted a Cosworth - that was her.

scanner wrote:
The Escort is her toy (500miles between MOT's last year) and will be the last to go - if you ever saw the "Wrong Car Right Car" with the girl who wanted a Cosworth - that was her.

Yeah, i remember that show! She has impeccable taste

bigdaddycain wrote:

scanner wrote:
The Escort is her toy (500miles between MOT's last year) and will be the last to go - if you ever saw the "Wrong Car Right Car" with the girl who wanted a Cosworth - that was her.

Yeah, i remember that show! She has impeccable taste

Ahh yes, you remembered then - of the 3 new cars she tried, the ST170 was rejected without hesitation as a boring old man's car.

Dauphinoise.........Now that is an afrodisiac...............

The Great Pretender wrote: Dauphinoise.........Now that is an afrodisiac...............

I'll give ya that one it is french you should try my s.....d ...k mate it's to die for Sorry

The Great Pretender wrote: Dauphinoise.........Now that is an afrodisiac...............

I thought it was a Renault with terminal understeer.

scanner wrote:
Yeah, i remember that show! She has impeccable taste

Ahh yes, you remembered then - of the 3 new cars she tried, the ST170 was rejected without hesitation as a boring old man's car. [/quote]

I do indeed remember! I'd had a couple of ST 170's at the time that show was first aired, the "170" was an understated, and more notably underated speed machine, though it did lack the extra appendages of the "cossie".

Hi
Ah....the Renault Dauphine....It was always a race between body and engine as to which corroded away first....The engine block had a flange at the bottom...water would collect there and the engine block would CORRODE FROM THE OUTSIDE....fortunately, they were a wet-liner engine, so you could push your old liners out of your low-mileage engine, and just replace the rusty old block with one from the breakers....just in time for your front wings to drop off ......Yuk...Renaults....
Cheers
Helen

bigdaddycain wrote:Yeah, i remember that show! She has impeccable taste

scanner wrote: Ahh yes, you remembered then - of the 3 new cars she tried, the ST170 was rejected without hesitation as a boring old man's car.

I do indeed remember! I'd had a couple of ST 170's at the time that show was first aired, the "170" was an understated, and more notably underated speed machine, though it did lack the extra appendages of the "cossie".

I had to drive the ST170 over to Rockingham and a few other places during filming and found it to be an awful road car unless they were clear enough for you to keep the poor thing "on the boil" all the time. No thanks, give me a decent (in fact just about any) turbo diesel instead or even the Scooby, but not that awful peaky revvy sparker in the 170.
Uggh!

helen&tony wrote:Hi
Ah....the Renault Dauphine....It was always a race between body and engine as to which corroded away first....The engine block had a flange at the bottom...water would collect there and the engine block would CORRODE FROM THE OUTSIDE....fortunately, they were a wet-liner engine, so you could push your old liners out of your low-mileage engine, and just replace the rusty old block with one from the breakers....just in time for your front wings to drop off ......Yuk...Renaults....
Cheers
Helen

Oh yes! I remember we hired one of those to go up in the mountains behind Benidorm when on holiday in 196*. Somewhere up among the hairpin bends the gear lever (which looked as though it might have been aluminium) snapped off...........at the base. Wot a larf

Some one mensioned dump valves earlyer on a Cosworth. The dump valve is not needed on any turbo car but they just sound good. I had one on my R5 GT Turbo when i was a teen.
The theory behind them is to reduce lag after a gear change by releasing pressure. As you shut off the throttle, only for a moment, to change gear the butterfly valve on the air inlet closes causing the intake pipe to build with pressure. This pressure pushes back on the compressor blades in the turbo causeing them to slow down, they are no longer being driven by axhaust gasses as you have shut off the throttle. Once you have chosen the next gear and go back on the throttle the turbo needs to spool up again and there is a very brief moment until they are spinning and boosting again. The theaory is by releaving the pressure in the system the turbo keeps spinning so when you come back on the throttle there is no delay with boosting.
The flip side problem is that the turbo although spinning free now has to re pressurise the inlet pipes and that may take just as long.
You have to ask why ralley cars never used dump valves, its more of a gimik but a fun one at that. All you can hear on rally cars is the waste gate fluttering as it releases exhaust gasses to control boost pressure.
Love turbo stuff!

Daniel wrote:Some one mensioned dump valves earlyer on a Cosworth. The dump valve is not needed on any turbo car but they just sound good. I had one on my R5 GT Turbo when i was a teen.
The theory behind them is to reduce lag after a gear change by releasing pressure. As you shut off the throttle, only for a moment, to change gear the butterfly valve on the air inlet closes causing the intake pipe to build with pressure. This pressure pushes back on the compressor blades in the turbo causeing them to slow down, they are no longer being driven by axhaust gasses as you have shut off the throttle. Once you have chosen the next gear and go back on the throttle the turbo needs to spool up again and there is a very brief moment until they are spinning and boosting again. The theaory is by releaving the pressure in the system the turbo keeps spinning so when you come back on the throttle there is no delay with boosting.
The flip side problem is that the turbo although spinning free now has to re pressurise the inlet pipes and that may take just as long.
You have to ask why ralley cars never used dump valves, its more of a gimik but a fun one at that. All you can hear on rally cars is the waste gate fluttering as it releases exhaust gasses to control boost pressure.
Love turbo stuff!

They were originally designed to stop early fragile turbos shattering when they stalled because the pressure downstream of them was so much more than atmospheric that it tried to spin them back the wrong way.
When turbos became better built and stronger the need for them vanished.

I reckon it's cheaper and easier to just to shout "Psssshaaar" out of the window every so often.............................

scanner wrote:

Daniel wrote:Some one mensioned dump valves earlyer on a Cosworth. The dump valve is not needed on any turbo car but they just sound good. I had one on my R5 GT Turbo when i was a teen.
The theory behind them is to reduce lag after a gear change by releasing pressure. As you shut off the throttle, only for a moment, to change gear the butterfly valve on the air inlet closes causing the intake pipe to build with pressure. This pressure pushes back on the compressor blades in the turbo causeing them to slow down, they are no longer being driven by axhaust gasses as you have shut off the throttle. Once you have chosen the next gear and go back on the throttle the turbo needs to spool up again and there is a very brief moment until they are spinning and boosting again. The theaory is by releaving the pressure in the system the turbo keeps spinning so when you come back on the throttle there is no delay with boosting.
The flip side problem is that the turbo although spinning free now has to re pressurise the inlet pipes and that may take just as long.
You have to ask why ralley cars never used dump valves, its more of a gimik but a fun one at that. All you can hear on rally cars is the waste gate fluttering as it releases exhaust gasses to control boost pressure.
Love turbo stuff!

They were originally designed to stop early fragile turbos shattering when they stalled because the pressure downstream of them was so much more than atmospheric that it tried to spin them back the wrong way.
When turbos became better built and stronger the need for them vanished.

I reckon it's cheaper and easier to just to shout "Psssshaaar" out of the window every so often.............................

Tried that today and she hit me!