Is there an engine restricter?

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Re: Is there an engine restricter?

Post by scanner » Wed Oct 08, 2008 11:04 pm

That long? :shock:
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Re: Is there an engine restricter?

Post by ex25er » Wed Oct 08, 2008 11:59 pm

All diesels have to be restricted, either mechanically or electronically, to stop them revving into infinity and.... whatever comes after that.

Anything with an ecu can be chipped, anything with a mechanical pump... well you're pretty much stuck with it!

You could always play with the timing if you're desperate for more power (or efficiency). I might be wrong, but I think that's what black cab drivers do to make their cabs go a bit quicker. They might spew out a bit of black smoke along the way, and do a few less mpg, but if they can get more fares of an evening.....

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Re: Is there an engine restricter?

Post by scanner » Thu Oct 09, 2008 9:25 am

ex25er wrote:All diesels have to be restricted, either mechanically or electronically, to stop them revving into infinity and.... whatever comes after that.
That is an engine RPM governor - what they are talking about here is an electronic road speed restrictor.
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Re: Is there an engine restricter?

Post by wai.lee65 » Thu Oct 09, 2008 9:30 am

bonglo wrote:Hi, Is the engine restricted on the Bongo. If so does it affect MPG etc.. I am not looking to go fast but i have seen ebay items talking about increased efficiency from removing restrictors. any thoughts.
p.s getting my Bongo on Friday !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :D :D :D
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The best way is to sorce a local specialist and get the Bus remaped or Chiped
they will give you the best advice
I had a Range Rover DSE done and it get loads more power and the MPG went up
by about 4mpg
I asl now of a few people who have had camper vans done with the same result
its about £250/300

Hope this helps...Lee
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Re: Is there an engine restricter?

Post by scanner » Thu Oct 09, 2008 9:41 am

wai.lee65 wrote:
bonglo wrote:Hi, Is the engine restricted on the Bongo. If so does it affect MPG etc.. I am not looking to go fast but i have seen ebay items talking about increased efficiency from removing restrictors. any thoughts.
p.s getting my Bongo on Friday !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :D :D :D
2.5D SGL5 - AFT - Aqua
The best way is to sorce a local specialist and get the Bus remaped or Chiped
they will give you the best advice
I had a Range Rover DSE done and it get loads more power and the MPG went up
by about 4mpg
I asl now of a few people who have had camper vans done with the same result
its about £250/300

Hope this helps...Lee
To remap or chip an engine you need to have a chip in the first place and most Bongos don't have one, they are mechanically injected.
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Re: Is there an engine restricter?

Post by wai.lee65 » Thu Oct 09, 2008 3:55 pm

scanner wrote:
wai.lee65 wrote:
bonglo wrote:Hi, Is the engine restricted on the Bongo. If so does it affect MPG etc.. I am not looking to go fast but i have seen ebay items talking about increased efficiency from removing restrictors. any thoughts.
p.s getting my Bongo on Friday !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :D :D :D
2.5D SGL5 - AFT - Aqua
The best way is to sorce a local specialist and get the Bus remaped or Chiped
they will give you the best advice
I had a Range Rover DSE done and it get loads more power and the MPG went up
by about 4mpg
I asl now of a few people who have had camper vans done with the same result
its about £250/300

Hope this helps...Lee
To remap or chip an engine you need to have a chip in the first place and most Bongos don't have one, they are mechanically injected.
as i said sorce a local specialist, for best advice , Bongos have a ECU
so surley it can be remaped?? or fuel pumps upgraded?
ive even know of old LANDROVERS modified as i use't to be heavly
involved with Landrover clubs and stuff

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Re: Is there an engine restricter?

Post by scanner » Thu Oct 09, 2008 4:29 pm

wai.lee65 wrote: as i said sorce a local specialist, for best advice , Bongos have a ECU
so surley it can be remaped?? or fuel pumps upgraded?
ive even know of old LANDROVERS modified as i use't to be heavly
involved with Landrover clubs and stuff

Lee
Nope, apparently the question has been asked many times and every time the computer says no.
It may have an ECU but that doesn't control the injection.

Read--- http://www.igmaynard.co.uk/bongo/forum/ ... t=+chipped

But if you can find somebody who can do it you'll make a lot of owners very happy.
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Re: Is there an engine restricter?

Post by bigdaddycain » Fri Oct 10, 2008 4:52 am

I dunno about the later "fly by wire" type bongo's (2000 onwards?), but most don't have an E.C.U. to chip, you can i believe have a mechanical tune,i.e. timing adjusted,fuel pump adjusted etc.
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Re: Is there an engine restricter?

Post by scanner » Fri Oct 10, 2008 10:34 am

bigdaddycain wrote:I dunno about the later "fly by wire" type bongo's (2000 onwards?), but most don't have an E.C.U. to chip, you can i believe have a mechanical tune,i.e. timing adjusted,fuel pump adjusted etc.
They have an ECU, but not one that controls the injection pump. I would guess the fly-by-wire ones must be electronically controlled and should therefore be chippable.
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