No. 1 manifold stud

Technical questions and answers about the Mazda Bongo

Moderators: Doone, westonwarrior

User avatar
dom_e
Tribal Elder
Posts: 880
Joined: Mon Sep 22, 2008 9:55 pm
Location: Cardiff

No. 1 manifold stud

Post by dom_e » Wed Jul 24, 2013 8:47 pm

Ours has just failed. It began shortly after having the alternator, aircon and other (water pump?) belts changed and manifests as a whistle noise under load. It's not too bad, but we're going to be doing some big miles before it can be fixed. Is there an estimated time/mileage before it starts to become a noisy, unbearable sound?

I've been told it's about £150 to sort out if it's not too difficult to removed the sheered bolt. Realistic?

Cheers.

Dom
Beyond A to B
User avatar
haydn callow
Supreme Being
Posts: 5772
Joined: Mon Jan 08, 2007 9:50 pm
Location: Somerset
Contact:

Re: No. 1 manifold stud

Post by haydn callow » Thu Jul 25, 2013 6:54 am

Sounds about right but I would fix it ASAP......you may find you are
' burning ' away metal or the gasket and that will make the job a bigger one.......I did mine in about 90 mins without removing anything. Just removed the broken stud, screwed in a bit of new stud and tightened it all up.......all was still o.k. A year later when I sold that one.
http://www.coolantalarm.co.uk
Developer of the Mazda Bongo Coolant loss Alarm
Also BMW Clocks
winchman
Supreme Being
Posts: 1984
Joined: Sat Jan 07, 2012 1:34 pm
Location: St.Helens Merseyside

Re: No. 1 manifold stud

Post by winchman » Thu Jul 25, 2013 8:55 am

I agree get it done now, with the correct tools it should be removable easily
User avatar
hembramacho
Supreme Being
Posts: 1293
Joined: Wed May 06, 2009 8:38 pm
Location: North Wales

Re: No. 1 manifold stud

Post by hembramacho » Thu Jul 25, 2013 9:37 am

Get it done as soon as you can. We've had 2 go - first one pretty simple job to drill old one out and replace.
Second time, a whole lot more needed to be done, with replacement manifolds, gaskets, etc. needed.

Cheers

Andrew
ImageGwlad, gwlad, pleidiol wyf i'm gwlad.Image
User avatar
dom_e
Tribal Elder
Posts: 880
Joined: Mon Sep 22, 2008 9:55 pm
Location: Cardiff

Re: No. 1 manifold stud

Post by dom_e » Thu Jul 25, 2013 12:27 pm

Sadly, I've run out of time to get it fixed since I'm in work all day, then off in the eve. Is there anything I could do to prevent the problem worsening whilst we're away (dare I say, botch fix)?

I read some excellent instructions on how to dissemble, check and re-fit the manifold, but alas, time doesn't permit and the local Bongo garage can't fit it in today.

edit - I may try to duck out a bit early and take a look to see if it's possible to remove the broken stud without taking half the turbo etc. off, then get it to a garage for a replacement stud.

Cheers
Beyond A to B
David Edwards
Supreme Being
Posts: 4100
Joined: Sat Oct 16, 2004 6:37 pm
Location: Aberdare south wales

Re: No. 1 manifold stud

Post by David Edwards » Thu Jul 25, 2013 2:27 pm

I would shop about, my local garage did mine for 50 quid. They said it was easy,lol.
User avatar
dom_e
Tribal Elder
Posts: 880
Joined: Mon Sep 22, 2008 9:55 pm
Location: Cardiff

Re: No. 1 manifold stud

Post by dom_e » Thu Jul 25, 2013 4:48 pm

I certainly will be then!
Beyond A to B
User avatar
haydn callow
Supreme Being
Posts: 5772
Joined: Mon Jan 08, 2007 9:50 pm
Location: Somerset
Contact:

Re: No. 1 manifold stud

Post by haydn callow » Thu Jul 25, 2013 5:34 pm

Removing the stud is easy if you have the right tools.....you will need a carbide pilot drill and a bit of tube to centre it......then a drill of the correct size or try a stud extractor.....when stud removed.....helicoil or tap.....easy if you have everything to hand.....not a job to be rushed.....swing the alternator out of the way
http://www.coolantalarm.co.uk
Developer of the Mazda Bongo Coolant loss Alarm
Also BMW Clocks
User avatar
Northern Bongolow
Supreme Being
Posts: 7713
Joined: Mon Mar 15, 2010 11:33 pm
Location: AKA Vanessa

Re: No. 1 manifold stud

Post by Northern Bongolow » Thu Jul 25, 2013 6:07 pm

the escaping exhaust gasses can overheat the alternator as the cooling fins/vents are opposite. #-o #-o .

it can also can make the passy seat a little warm to sit in for long distances, ask marianne at bongo fury HQ. she had a rump that was cooked to perfection, mmmmmmmm. :lol: :lol:
User avatar
dom_e
Tribal Elder
Posts: 880
Joined: Mon Sep 22, 2008 9:55 pm
Location: Cardiff

Re: No. 1 manifold stud

Post by dom_e » Thu Jul 25, 2013 10:33 pm

Argh. All this is a bit worring now. I phoned around garages this afternoon, to no avail. The ferry is tomorrow am and there's no chance to sort it. Fan-bloomin' tastic timing on it happening! I can't find any reasonable price breakdown cover as well!

No option but to hope now! We've already driven to Reading from Cardiff for an overnight stop at relatives and it's a bit noisier than when we started.
Beyond A to B
User avatar
Northern Bongolow
Supreme Being
Posts: 7713
Joined: Mon Mar 15, 2010 11:33 pm
Location: AKA Vanessa

Re: No. 1 manifold stud

Post by Northern Bongolow » Thu Jul 25, 2013 10:52 pm

its a long shot but you could try a big hand full of exhaust assembly paste over the entire area, and keep checking regularly.
User avatar
dom_e
Tribal Elder
Posts: 880
Joined: Mon Sep 22, 2008 9:55 pm
Location: Cardiff

Re: No. 1 manifold stud

Post by dom_e » Thu Jul 25, 2013 10:58 pm

There is a Halfrauds on-route; could be worth a punt. If not before, I'll have time to do it on the ferry.
Beyond A to B
User avatar
mulshy
Bongolier
Posts: 191
Joined: Wed Jan 21, 2009 4:40 pm
Location: glasgowish

Re: No. 1 manifold stud

Post by mulshy » Fri Jul 26, 2013 12:20 am

Our gasket went as we headed off on holiday a couple of years ago :evil:
We still carried on to John O Groats and around the north of Scotland a
good few hundred miles with only the embarrassment of a loud screech
echoing up the glens when going uphill to put a damper on our holiday.
Still had great time though 8)
When we got home and eventually stripped it down I found previous
owners had covered the already broken stud with exhaust putty which
had lasted a good few months.

Hope all goes well with your holiday!
all the same but different
User avatar
dom_e
Tribal Elder
Posts: 880
Joined: Mon Sep 22, 2008 9:55 pm
Location: Cardiff

Re: No. 1 manifold stud

Post by dom_e » Fri Jul 26, 2013 7:00 am

Thank you all for the replies. One last question....I presume that the manifold is covered by a heat shield. Is this typically easy to remove to gain access and apply paste? I stupidly didn't pack spanners, but could buy a set.
Beyond A to B
User avatar
Northern Bongolow
Supreme Being
Posts: 7713
Joined: Mon Mar 15, 2010 11:33 pm
Location: AKA Vanessa

Re: No. 1 manifold stud

Post by Northern Bongolow » Fri Jul 26, 2013 10:01 pm

no1 (broken ) stud isnt under the heat shield, its next to the alternator.

check out this link it will help a little.

http://igmaynard.co.uk/bongo/forum/view ... ifold+stud
Locked

Return to “Techie Stuff”