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Engine Code/headbolts

Post by pennylanebaby » Mon Oct 22, 2012 2:18 pm

Hi, I am a newbie to the forum. I have a 95 2.5 turbo bongo with engine code deo4s12 can anyone tell me if this is the same code or similar to the WL engine code as i need to order a head gasket set and the local supplier does not reckonise the deo4s12 code that is on the chassis plate but i have found a head set under the code WL that from pictures look similar....

Also when i replace the head gasket do i need to replace the head bolts or can they be used again, I am aware that some head bolts on other vehicles do not need to be replaced on gasket change but not sure on bongo..

Any Info would be much appriciated..

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Re: Engine Code/headbolts

Post by wonkanoby » Mon Oct 22, 2012 2:44 pm

pretty positive head bolts are one shot as they stretch when torqued down
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Re: Engine Code/headbolts

Post by pennylanebaby » Mon Oct 22, 2012 2:48 pm

Cheers best get a set so....

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Re: Engine Code/headbolts

Post by widdowson2008 » Tue Oct 23, 2012 9:18 am

wonkanoby wrote:pretty positive head bolts are one shot as they stretch when torqued down
Not strictly true. They ARE stretch bolts and according to the manual they can be used again providing the actual measured 'stretched' length is within a specified tolerance. (let me know if you need the spec)

The bolt is stretched when the bolts are torqued down but the stretch is within the elastic limit of the bolt material.
As such, when the bolts are subsequently removed, they should go back to their original length.

When I did spenners head, I measured the old bolts and they were to the specified length. (but we still used new bolts)
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Re: Engine Code/headbolts

Post by Titan1995 » Tue Oct 23, 2012 10:04 am

Fit new bolts ......and get a assistant to help with the torquing and then angles.

Something like 54 goes on a wrench if I remember rightly.
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Re: Engine Code/headbolts

Post by widdowson2008 » Tue Oct 23, 2012 11:17 am

Titan1995 wrote:Fit new bolts ......and get a assistant to help with the torquing and then angles.

Something like 54 goes on a wrench if I remember rightly.
Yep lots of work doing the torquing as Titan says but follow the Mazda manual sequence and settings cos it works. If you don't have a manual, send me a pm and I'll send them to you.
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Re: Engine Code/headbolts

Post by Simon Jones » Tue Oct 23, 2012 1:32 pm

There's a factsheet in the members area that covers changing head gasket:

http://www.igmaynard.co.uk/bongo/member ... gasket.pdf

While you've got it apart you should change cambelt & tensioner, as well as consider changing water pump too. Much easier to do when its all in bits anyway.
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Re: Engine Code/headbolts

Post by Titan1995 » Tue Oct 23, 2012 1:36 pm

I have a .PDF copy of the engine manual should you want one....pm me and I will send to you.
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Re: Engine Code/headbolts

Post by 321Away » Tue Oct 23, 2012 1:57 pm

widdowson2008 wrote:
wonkanoby wrote:pretty positive head bolts are one shot as they stretch when torqued down
Not strictly true. They ARE stretch bolts and according to the manual they can be used again providing the actual measured 'stretched' length is within a specified tolerance. (let me know if you need the spec)

The bolt is stretched when the bolts are torqued down but the stretch is within the elastic limit of the bolt material.
As such, when the bolts are subsequently removed, they should go back to their original length.

When I did spenners head, I measured the old bolts and they were to the specified length. (but we still used new bolts)

Agree, ive yet to see a headbolt that exceeds the specified stretch limit, always best to just throw a new set in, why risk it for sake of £30!!
Never seen an egine code like that? it usually always starts WL0? that said i've got a Scooby at home with an engine that according to everyone doesnt exist! so anythings possible lol

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Re: Engine Code/headbolts

Post by pennylanebaby » Wed Oct 24, 2012 8:06 pm

Simon Jones wrote:There's a factsheet in the members area that covers changing head gasket:

http://www.igmaynard.co.uk/bongo/member ... gasket.pdf

While you've got it apart you should change cambelt & tensioner, as well as consider changing water pump too. Much easier to do when its all in bits anyway.
thanks, ill check that out, sound advice
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Re: Engine Code/headbolts

Post by widdowson2008 » Thu Oct 25, 2012 8:07 am

Head Bolts.

I reproduced this from the manual. Not too clear on the forum due to size restrictions but very clear as a pdf.


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Re: Engine Code/headbolts

Post by Titan1995 » Thu Oct 25, 2012 9:52 am

Check your emails, a .pdf copy of the Ford Ranger Engine Manual 2.5WLT , should be sitting there now.
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