Show us yer insides

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Re: Show us yer insides

Post by mentaliss » Sat Feb 11, 2012 2:42 pm

dave_aber wrote:The DVLA have a set guideline regarding the equipment level they need to be fitted before they will re-register a van as a campervan. Basically, it needs a bed (can be made from the seats), sink, 2-burner hob, storage and a table. Your insurer may (or may not) use the same criteria - Lifesure insured me as "work in progress", and on completion needed a certificate from a motorhome engineer to show that the construction was up to standard.
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I to have the similar problem as I wish to change my vehicle's status from a MPV to a Motor Caravan After the DVLA receive's photos of the van conversion and meeting with the said criteria then applying this change in your V5 Document as a 'Motor Caravan' I cant see what grounds LifeSure OR any other insurance company have to refuse to insurance such.... maybe its time for the insurance omlibusman to take a look at this practice
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Re: Show us yer insides

Post by joca » Fri May 04, 2012 8:13 pm

Exatly the same as mine. I do not have the box under the rear seat.
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Re: Show us yer insides

Post by climbingnut » Sun Jun 10, 2012 9:49 pm

Decided to undergo a bit of a conversion project prior to the Big Bash next week. Wanted to retain the usefulness of the vehicle as an every day car but wanted to be able to load the back and get to the stuff at the bottom!

First of all I have had my windows re-tinted to Limo Black

http://i1115.photobucket.com/albums/k54 ... indows.jpg

http://i1115.photobucket.com/albums/k54 ... ongo-1.jpg

Then I fitted a LED strip light at the rear. (Connected to the wiring I had fitted earlier to the leisure battery I installed)

http://i1115.photobucket.com/albums/k54 ... Lights.jpg

Next was to remove the rear gull-wing seats

http://i1115.photobucket.com/albums/k54 ... oSeats.jpg

Then install some aluminium tube to raise the level to thickness of the seats

http://i1115.photobucket.com/albums/k54 ... mBlock.jpg

Then a steel strut to connect the two to provide support to the shelf

http://i1115.photobucket.com/albums/k54 ... upport.jpg

Then fit the shelf over the two supports

http://i1115.photobucket.com/albums/k54 ... Nolegs.jpg

http://i1115.photobucket.com/albums/k54 ... lShelf.jpg

Tested it with my willing volunteer!

http://i1115.photobucket.com/albums/k54 ... Strain.jpg

Decided at this point it needed additional support

http://i1115.photobucket.com/albums/k54 ... rneath.jpg

http://i1115.photobucket.com/albums/k54 ... rneath.jpg

Looks like this from the front

http://i1115.photobucket.com/albums/k54 ... eFront.jpg

Then added a drawer for food prep etc

http://i1115.photobucket.com/albums/k54 ... tShelf.jpg

Will be finishing off a bit of wiring over this week and covering the shelf with vehicle fabric.

More to come!
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Re: Show us yer insides

Post by Driver+Passengers » Sun Jun 10, 2012 11:59 pm

climbingnut wrote:Decided to undergo a bit of a conversion project prior to the Big Bash next week. Wanted to retain the usefulness of the vehicle as an every day car but wanted to be able to load the back and get to the stuff at the bottom!

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Will be finishing off a bit of wiring over this week and covering the shelf with vehicle fabric.

More to come!
A hatch or two in the platform to access stuff underneath would be a boon. I like this, a lot!!! =D> =D>
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Re: Show us yer insides

Post by B*Witched Blingo » Mon Jun 11, 2012 9:26 pm

I'm surprised that I haven't seen Converters adopt the moveable restraint sytems used in Mobility transport. In a previous role I had transporting the disabled we used these in the minibus. Very easy to use and very secure when used in conjunction with the floor rail.

http://www.unwin-safety.com/

Only problem I could see is where the top bracket could be secured.

Also the seats are a little narrower but it would give a fair bit of flexibilty for the outdoor pursuit enthusiasts out there.
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Re: Show us yer insides

Post by winchman » Tue Jun 12, 2012 5:59 am

Coach seats can be fitted as they have the top mount built in to them, some one on here bought one from me so they could add and remove a seat to carry a Baby seat safely.
You could contact one of the seat belt manufacturers as they could modify the existing seat to include a top mount
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Re: Show us yer insides

Post by Bisto_Blue » Tue Jun 12, 2012 9:16 am

winchman wrote:Coach seats can be fitted as they have the top mount built in to them, some one on here bought one from me so they could add and remove a seat to carry a Baby seat safely.
That would be me, although I have put it off until I can find a local firm who are certified Unwin fitters.

In principle, correctly fitted low profile Unwin tracking, and a coach seat with integral 3 point harness should be as safe as houses, and would give me the option of a removable "crash tested" third seat in my fully converted Bongo.
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Re: Show us yer insides

Post by winchman » Tue Jun 12, 2012 9:52 am

Bisto_Blue wrote:
winchman wrote:Coach seats can be fitted as they have the top mount built in to them, some one on here bought one from me so they could add and remove a seat to carry a Baby seat safely.
That would be me, although I have put it off until I can find a local firm who are certified Unwin fitters.

In principle, correctly fitted low profile Unwin tracking, and a coach seat with integral 3 point harness should be as safe as houses, and would give me the option of a removable "crash tested" third seat in my fully converted Bongo.
This is my concern I could easily make a rock and roll bed / seat but I wouldnt want my children or any one elses in it as whilst I can do the calcs etc I cant crash test it
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Re: Show us yer insides

Post by cookan » Tue Jun 12, 2012 1:15 pm

Purely functional ;-)

we needed something minimal so we could still sleep all 5 of us. Tested the shelves last week with a week long trip to Cornwall before working out what final modifications are needed for a month in france.
Shelves 'sit' on the nearside rear seat mount and are bolted into the nearside rear roof handle (it can't move upwards so can't hop off the seat mounts). The rear 'leg' then sits over the ground anchor for the nearside rear seat (i was thinking of have a pin through the leg to lock it onto the anchor also..but it's solid already as it is) and the front 'leg' rests on the floor.

Lower level holds a portaflush 20L and a 25L water container..I'll be putting a submersible pump in the container and some form of pipe in as a tap ;-) There's room left for a trug full of shoes etc and behind the water/over the wheal arch there's room for a small shelf where I'll be storing essential tools for the bongo ! Toilet and Water are tethered to the rear seat floor anchor in case of accident...they didn't move under their own weight the whole journey so happy with just tethering them for future..will replace the bungee with something else for the toiilet tho..
First shelf is for 'kit' (cutlery, 5 bowls, 5 mugs, msr stove , rope and various survival type things..oh..and toilet roll by the looks of it !)
second shelf has clothes and two sleeping bags with my travel fishing rods, another sleeping bag and a tarp wedged in the void by the window.
third/top shelf held a collapsible box with all our food in..easier to get into it when the roofs up of course, but sufficed on route as well..as well as , a 'box' of 'stuff' (maglights/first aid etc) and wash kit.
Wetsuits, wet weather gear, swimming gear and even 2 snorkels and masks were stored in a flat collapsible box under the bench seat with the remaining two sleeping bags under the bench seat and back seat. AA emergency bag of rubbish wedged under between bench seat and offside panel.
Finally, we had a fold away table which also held within it 4 chairs and a notebook BBQ sitting on its side between the shelves and the rear seat...a bit of a pain but it did get used..

Shelves are lined with grip mat (apart from the clothes shelf).
The contents were held in place by some pretty material and velcro and a few staples....we had NOTHING fall out or off in the whole week which is more than I can say about the motorhome we once rented !

we have 2 adults, a 3 year old, 6 and 8 year old and travel light (our previous bongo was a terra nova terra firma). Shelves worked a treat with the following mods to be made over the next few weeks..
1. Drop down doors (possibly sinlge doors covering shelf 1 and 2) to double as work surfaces at rear for outside prep and sides/front for internal prep to replace the material and velcro
2. Pumped water on a simple switch powered from the cig lighter
3. additional small shelf behind water tank for socket sets/tools etc
4. Pull out/recessed hooks on rear and side for temporary hanging of bin bag / wet clothes, other 'stuff'
5. Canister brackets to hold msr fuel
6. some sides and a half height door for the 'larder' shelf to avoid the need for the collapsible box and make access a little easier


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Re: Show us yer insides

Post by dom_e » Tue Jun 12, 2012 8:05 pm

That's a novel set up. I'd worry a bit about the stuff flying off the shelves in an accident/emergency stop mind.

I love the travel light idea. It's something I aspire to, yet seem unable to achieve! We're getting better, but we still manage to take stuff that's not used. Sometimes it's a case of better to have and not need than need and not have though.
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Re: Show us yer insides

Post by climbingnut » Tue Jun 12, 2012 11:11 pm

Despite the terrible weather this week, managed to get a few more bits done...

First came the completion of the light switch installation (although I still need a second loom fitting as the light currently runs off the fridge circuit).

http://i1115.photobucket.com/albums/k54 ... Switch.jpg

Then came the lining of the shelf in matching fabric to the tail gate which I fitted a few months back.

http://i1115.photobucket.com/albums/k54 ... /Shelf.jpg

http://i1115.photobucket.com/albums/k54 ... Drawer.jpg

http://i1115.photobucket.com/albums/k54 ... mFront.jpg

http://i1115.photobucket.com/albums/k54 ... /AsBed.jpg

http://i1115.photobucket.com/albums/k54 ... mFront.jpg

Nearly finished... :D
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Re: Show us yer insides

Post by thehopster » Wed Sep 19, 2012 2:13 pm

this looks fab. was it expensive?
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Re: Show us yer insides

Post by Velocette » Wed Sep 19, 2012 3:01 pm

cookan wrote:Purely functional ;-)

we needed something minimal so we could still sleep all 5 of us. Tested the shelves last week with a week long trip to Cornwall before working out what final modifications are needed for a month in france.
Shelves 'sit' on the nearside rear seat mount and are bolted into the nearside rear roof handle (it can't move upwards so can't hop off the seat mounts). The rear 'leg' then sits over the ground anchor for the nearside rear seat (i was thinking of have a pin through the leg to lock it onto the anchor also..but it's solid already as it is) and the front 'leg' rests on the floor.

Lower level holds a portaflush 20L and a 25L water container..I'll be putting a submersible pump in the container and some form of pipe in as a tap ;-) There's room left for a trug full of shoes etc and behind the water/over the wheal arch there's room for a small shelf where I'll be storing essential tools for the bongo ! Toilet and Water are tethered to the rear seat floor anchor in case of accident...they didn't move under their own weight the whole journey so happy with just tethering them for future..will replace the bungee with something else for the toiilet tho..
First shelf is for 'kit' (cutlery, 5 bowls, 5 mugs, msr stove , rope and various survival type things..oh..and toilet roll by the looks of it !)
second shelf has clothes and two sleeping bags with my travel fishing rods, another sleeping bag and a tarp wedged in the void by the window.
third/top shelf held a collapsible box with all our food in..easier to get into it when the roofs up of course, but sufficed on route as well..as well as , a 'box' of 'stuff' (maglights/first aid etc) and wash kit.
Wetsuits, wet weather gear, swimming gear and even 2 snorkels and masks were stored in a flat collapsible box under the bench seat with the remaining two sleeping bags under the bench seat and back seat. AA emergency bag of rubbish wedged under between bench seat and offside panel.
Finally, we had a fold away table which also held within it 4 chairs and a notebook BBQ sitting on its side between the shelves and the rear seat...a bit of a pain but it did get used..

Shelves are lined with grip mat (apart from the clothes shelf).
The contents were held in place by some pretty material and velcro and a few staples....we had NOTHING fall out or off in the whole week which is more than I can say about the motorhome we once rented !

we have 2 adults, a 3 year old, 6 and 8 year old and travel light (our previous bongo was a terra nova terra firma). Shelves worked a treat with the following mods to be made over the next few weeks..
1. Drop down doors (possibly sinlge doors covering shelf 1 and 2) to double as work surfaces at rear for outside prep and sides/front for internal prep to replace the material and velcro
2. Pumped water on a simple switch powered from the cig lighter
3. additional small shelf behind water tank for socket sets/tools etc
4. Pull out/recessed hooks on rear and side for temporary hanging of bin bag / wet clothes, other 'stuff'
5. Canister brackets to hold msr fuel
6. some sides and a half height door for the 'larder' shelf to avoid the need for the collapsible box and make access a little easier


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I like the idea of shelves, a lot of storage space is wasted otherwise. I also use my Bongo for lots of other things so I go for quick detaceble and flexible solutions and have a choice of awning for how long I'm stopping and various configurations of equipment are possible for me.

I will try and post a couple of pics up taken during our last trip abroad.

When not camping, mine does duty as a shopping car, dog van, builder's van and garbage truck to name a just few.

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This was taken just as we were about to leave an overnight stop so it is a bit cluttered. Most of the big stuff goes in the awning but can still be used in the van. 3 Way Fridge has to go outside if no hook up and it just sat under a tree running on gas when that happened. 2.5 litres of bottled ice from home kept it down to temperature on a 24hr boat journey, it was wrapped in sleeping bags and pillows for good measure. Back on the LB when we left Santander and there was still a bit of ice left in the bottles when we got to our first campsite! As it only cost me £50 I don't mind lugging it in and out the van when there is no electric!
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Re: Show us yer insides

Post by Paulinwales » Mon Dec 17, 2012 12:45 pm

2.5 td - -sed as outdoor vehicle + family camper

Professional Side Conversion £1300 inc vinyl seats, seat belts, head rests & floor
https://picasaweb.google.com/PaulTheGar ... 1499347506
COnversion done by vw-camper-dreams side units (£700 fitted) I got them to go thin with the units as I wanted a decent bed. I did not go for sink, cooker etc as this would add cost + waste room + would cook in awning (or use my jetboil to boil water + made alot more storage and saved £600

used my waeco cd18 which is very economical top loader, + ads portability to store in awning, use in house as extra freezer at x-mas etc paid £210
https://picasaweb.google.com/PaulTheGar ... 689287074
used silver lined rockwool for insulation which I did myself £30
Floor did myself £60
wired in 9 cig points around the van all at 30A fused and direct to leisure, enough to run a decent inverter to power TV/Laptop

solar panel brings in just about enough to power the fridge and 7"tv/dvd so i am pretty much self sufficient in terms of power for wild day layby camping in scotland in summer. SOlar panel has also rejuvinated my leisure battery (as the claimed it would - I was initially skeptical but works see PWM and desulphination)

https://picasaweb.google.com/PaulTheGar ... 6295731298

Veg oil single
I started as twin tank then later utilised my second tank for the eberspacher and used a preheater to heat the engine to at least 40'C (if i am away from power I just put more diesel in before stopping or up too 10% petrol which allows it to start)

converted to run on veg oil (oil heater prior to fuel filter (£50)
engine pre- heater to heat engine prior to starting (£75)
cost max 40p a litre depending on how much free oil I get. I purchase good quality wvo @40p litre to manage a reliable supply.

eberspacher d1L 24V cost £100
fuel tank 5L from lawn mover wedged between metal joist under passenger seat - heater sits on top (£20)
2 x isolator switches on both terminals to allow me to prevent theft when left in layby's (walking) + also to allow a jump lead to join the leisure battery to make a 24V system (nb 12 internal also works as this is on a seperate circuit) so fridge, lights, internal gubins all 12v (£10)
Wire, ducting vents,etc £20

60W solar panel (£75) - careful choice allows roof rack of boats also to be used with panel in place

under bonet
https://picasaweb.google.com/PaulTheGar ... 4359238338
- 2 batteries, 110ah leisure batter - I made the holder out of wood + screwed stainless steel threads and big washes + nuts to make the frame (£80 for battery)
Willington split relay (£65 I think)
consumer unit + rcs hookup to supply 24v inside, also runs a charger that can be crock clipped to leisure or starter at hookup, also runs the engine pre-heater (cost £40)

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also added window tints (£10) + stickers (to hid any air bubbles + add the surfer feel)
Side decals @£40
spikes spiders snow chains £40 ebay rrp £340

https://picasaweb.google.com/PaulTheGar ... nedd/Bongo

happy to provide pics to email address with any further details of how I did any of the above





Bed 38" vinyl £570 from ebay (fitted) tight fit!!! has 2 x seatbelts on frame
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Re: Show us yer insides

Post by Paulinwales » Mon Dec 17, 2012 3:40 pm

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