mikeonb4c wrote:madmile wrote:Both valid comments (possibly) but what would be more likely to put me off, is the extreme likelyhood that 2 months after your conversion the government would change the tax on lpg and make the price equivalent to petrol.
I know a few people with lpg conversions (not bongo) and they never seem to be trouble free.
Much as I like bongos, if I had to commute 500 miles a week, I would choose something else - unless of course you are planning to sleep in it during the week - then it could make sense.
Ed's post has a worrying ring of plausibility and sense about it. I have always wondered how LPG remained so much cheaper, and just hope it continues that way. But you can't rely on much these days (look at us dieselheads with our brief holiday on veg. oil
I wonder how good a conversion you could manage on a Kangoo

Whereas I agree with Roger. As I understand it (can't recall the exact date off-hand) the duty rebate is guaranteed for the next two or three years at least. Unless by then everybody had switched to LPG, obviously not at all likely, the incentive for the government to continue to encourage LPG adoption will still be there then, and even if duty increase begins, it's likely to be in stages at worst. Meanwhile, with 500 miles per week commuting, an LPG conversion would be more than paid for in the first year*. Also, if long-range without refuelling would be useful in those long commutes, the combination of both petrol and LPG tanks gives just that.
*(and don't overlook the better emissions, even if duty does sooner or later increase - that's the reason for the rebate, meanwhile, of course)
Honest-John-as-Ill-informed-John has recently been debated in this context (Bongo V6/LPG) in another thread, with that general conclusion. Flashlube should be fitted (and is, by any reputable LPG installer - although do ask), and eliminates the valve issues. Other earlier LPG system problems have been ironed out in current more refined multi-point systems. Ours (BiGas in a V6) certainly produces that big grin without a downside.
Vehicle LPG tanks are very strong high impact resistant steel pressure vessels, reckoned to be safer than most vehicle petrol tanks, many of which are made of plastic in modern cars - although not in the Bongo, of course. Also, whereas petrol tanks are usually "dumb", vehicle LPG tanks have integrated "smart" control systems which, among other things, automatically shut off both their input (filler) and output valves, on switching off, switching to petrol, auto-switching to petrol on LPG run out, or on violent decelaration/impact.
No increase in insurance at Safeguard, as long as properly installer-certified.