overheat while stationary, thermostat?

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Re: overheat while stationary, thermostat?

Post by MountainGoat » Tue Dec 30, 2008 10:59 am

No idea really but from the compatible parts list at the head of this section you should ask for one of the following.
Thermostat, Bongo 2.5DT, MX-3, MX-6, Xedos, B2500, etc.

Thermostat for Mazda Bongo 2.5DT SGL3/SGL5. 82 degrees C. Full list of applications:
· Ford Freda 2.5TD 1995 on
· Ford Probe 2.0i/2.5i 1994-98
· Ford Ranger 2.5D/2.5TD 1999 on
· Mazda 323 BA 2.0i V6 (323F), 1994-98
· Mazda 323 BJ 1.8 GSi SE, 2.0i, 2.0DT, 1998-2003
· Mazda 6 2.0DT 2002 on
· Mazda 626 GE 1.8i LX, 2.0i GLX, 2.5i GT, 1992-97
· Mazda 626 GF-W 1.8i LXi, 2.0i, 2.0DT, 1997-2002
· Mazda B2500 Pickup 2.5TD, 1998 on
· Mazda Bongo 2.5TD SGL3/5, WL, 1995-2003
· Mazda Eunos 1.8i V6 EC8S, 1991-98
· Mazda Eunos 800 2.5i V6 TAS-KL, 1993-97
· Mazda Eunos AZ-3 1.8i ECPSA-K8, 1993-97
· Mazda MPV 2.0i & 2.0DT 1999 on
· Mazda MX-3 1.8i V6 EC13, 1992-98
· Mazda MX-6 2.5i 1991-98
· Mazda Premacy 1.8i/2.0i/2.0DT, CP1/CP19, 1999 on
· Mazda Xedos 6 2.0i V6 CA-KF, 1992-2000
· Mazda Xedos 9 2.3i/2.5i V6 TA12, 1994-2001
ADM59208. J1533015. NM00439.
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Re: overheat while stationary, thermostat?

Post by nigelginny » Tue Dec 30, 2008 11:04 am

Thanks, :D
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Re: overheat while stationary, thermostat?

Post by Aethelric » Tue Dec 30, 2008 11:20 am

I hope I'm wrong here Nigel, but I would have thought that the only way you could get white smoke (steam) in the exhaust would be if water were getting into a combustion chamber, which would point to a head gasket or a cracked head. Or is it possible for the overflow to get sucked into the air inlet? Anyone?

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Re: overheat while stationary, thermostat?

Post by nigelginny » Tue Dec 30, 2008 2:49 pm

Well re-bled the system, got temp up till bottom hose got hot, fierce steam coming from bleed hose so imposible to bleed, am now looking to get her into a bongo friendly garage, anyone know one in or around heathfield?
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Re: overheat while stationary, thermostat?

Post by MountainGoat » Tue Dec 30, 2008 3:16 pm

Have you checked out the members recommended garages list in the members area? There are a few in the Brighton / East Sussex area.

http://www.igmaynard.co.uk/bongo/member ... arages.csv
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Re: overheat while stationary, thermostat?

Post by nigelginny » Tue Dec 30, 2008 3:25 pm

yea had a look at them but wondered if there were any a bit nearer, i think the nearest to me is lewes, thanks anyway
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Re: overheat while stationary, thermostat?

Post by nigelginny » Mon Jan 05, 2009 5:48 pm

Another update, the garage phoned today, confirmed the head is cracked, also a sensor switch on the engine needs replacing, he tried to get the head from his usual supplier but they now only supply it complete with valves etc so now it looks like the total price for repair is around the £1500 mark :cry: i just wish id purchased the coolant loss alarm when i joined BF
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Re: overheat while stationary, thermostat?

Post by westonwarrior » Mon Jan 05, 2009 5:58 pm

Damn bad luck

Cost me that and more when mine went but have had no trouble since it was repaired

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Re: overheat while stationary, thermostat?

Post by haydn callow » Mon Jan 05, 2009 6:28 pm

Ask the garage to check the face of the engine block before they rebuild it and put the new head on....also make sure they know exactly how to fill up and bleed the cooling system.
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Re: overheat while stationary, thermostat?

Post by mikeonb4c » Mon Jan 05, 2009 6:37 pm

nigelginny wrote:Another update, the garage phoned today, confirmed the head is cracked, also a sensor switch on the engine needs replacing, he tried to get the head from his usual supplier but they now only supply it complete with valves etc so now it looks like the total price for repair is around the £1500 mark :cry: i just wish id purchased the coolant loss alarm when i joined BF
I wonder how much labour cost is saved by not having to transfer the valve gear etc (and re-grind?) from the old head to the new. Does this substantially offset the cost of a head with valves etc. already installed).

The suspicious bit of me also wonders if this is a line I would spin were I actually whipping the head off a breakers yard Bongo and plonking it on a different one, but I think I ought to say 10 Hail Marys and wash my mouth out with soap for thinking that one
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Re: overheat while stationary, thermostat?

Post by nigelginny » Mon Jan 05, 2009 6:47 pm

I got the garage off BF recomended garage list, the guy said he owns a bongo himself. i did say about getting the replacement from the breakers but he advised against it.
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Re: overheat while stationary, thermostat?

Post by mikeonb4c » Mon Jan 05, 2009 6:52 pm

nigelginny wrote:I got the garage off BF recomended garage list, the guy said he owns a bongo himself. i did say about getting the replacement from the breakers but he advised against it.
I'm off to do me penance then :oops:

But I would be interested to hear that those with direct or general technical knowledge on subjects like this have to say about labour saving costs in not having to transfer valve gear etc.

Good luck. It is a very unfortunate occurrence that will hopefully not recur once fixed. [-o<
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Re: overheat while stationary, thermostat?

Post by haydn callow » Mon Jan 05, 2009 6:56 pm

Sounds like you are now in good hands N&G
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Re: overheat while stationary, thermostat?

Post by francophile1947 » Mon Jan 05, 2009 7:08 pm

mikeonb4c wrote:But I would be interested to hear that those with direct or general technical knowledge on subjects like this have to say about labour saving costs in not having to transfer valve gear etc.
Based on labour rates when I was in the trade, I suspect that there wouldn't be much difference. It can take a long time to swap all the parts over, especially grinding in the valves to match the new head. I think a complete new head is a good idea, but a different story if you can do the work yourself.
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Re: overheat while stationary, thermostat?

Post by nigelginny » Mon Jan 05, 2009 7:11 pm

Thanks guys, i should have her back on friday so i will let you know how we get on.
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