Fitting Spring Assistors
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Fitting Spring Assistors
Hi,
Does anyone know the gap between the springs on a 2WD bongo.
I need to fit some spring assistors as it bottoms out at the rear when it's loaded up.
Can anyone recommend a good make and supplier?
Many thanks.
Does anyone know the gap between the springs on a 2WD bongo.
I need to fit some spring assistors as it bottoms out at the rear when it's loaded up.
Can anyone recommend a good make and supplier?
Many thanks.
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spring assisters
Hi Apole
There is a fact sheet on spring assisters , which,I believe, deals with the air-assist type. I have the type that fits in between the coils of the springs....I fitted mine as a temporary measure ages ago, and have to take them out. The make I have is "Grayston" , and most good caravan shops have them . I would advise against leaving them in, as they more-or-less isolate a portion of the spring from working properly, which will eventually lead to spring failure. They have a small amount of "give" in them, but not enough to protect the spring. Air assist versions can be inflated at will.
Cheers
Helen
There is a fact sheet on spring assisters , which,I believe, deals with the air-assist type. I have the type that fits in between the coils of the springs....I fitted mine as a temporary measure ages ago, and have to take them out. The make I have is "Grayston" , and most good caravan shops have them . I would advise against leaving them in, as they more-or-less isolate a portion of the spring from working properly, which will eventually lead to spring failure. They have a small amount of "give" in them, but not enough to protect the spring. Air assist versions can be inflated at will.
Cheers
Helen
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That is why it is best to fit them as far to the end of the coils as possible so that only the spring at one end of them flexes. In effect just shortening the spring rather than dedening the middle of the spring.helen&tony wrote:Hi Apole
There is a fact sheet on spring assisters , which,I believe, deals with the air-assist type. I have the type that fits in between the coils of the springs....I fitted mine as a temporary measure ages ago, and have to take them out. The make I have is "Grayston" , and most good caravan shops have them . I would advise against leaving them in, as they more-or-less isolate a portion of the spring from working properly, which will eventually lead to spring failure. They have a small amount of "give" in them, but not enough to protect the spring. Air assist versions can be inflated at will.
Cheers
Helen
I also found them too stiff and that can be reduced by carefully drilling a few holes through them, as that makes them far more progressive.
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Scanner
A member (I forget who) actually posted here that this type caused a spring failure on his vehicle for the reason I stated....It's not my experience, as I have them fitted, and yes, they are stiffer unloaded, but if the spring is , in effect , shortened, then, surely the amount left has to work twice as hard (or equivalent to the portion removed), and the manufacturer carefully estimates the loadings imposed and designs the spring accordingly, or that was what my father always told me, and shortening is not a good idea. If shortening is done to lower a vehicle, it is better to buy a specially made spring, or have your own re-heated and tempered in a shorter configuration.
Cheers
Helen
Scanner
A member (I forget who) actually posted here that this type caused a spring failure on his vehicle for the reason I stated....It's not my experience, as I have them fitted, and yes, they are stiffer unloaded, but if the spring is , in effect , shortened, then, surely the amount left has to work twice as hard (or equivalent to the portion removed), and the manufacturer carefully estimates the loadings imposed and designs the spring accordingly, or that was what my father always told me, and shortening is not a good idea. If shortening is done to lower a vehicle, it is better to buy a specially made spring, or have your own re-heated and tempered in a shorter configuration.
Cheers
Helen
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I fitted a set of the Towsure ones 2 years ago. I've had no adverse effects with them fitted although the rear does still bump out on undulations when laden. I'm just about to fit an air assister kit by Airlift.
The rubber assisters do allow 2 coils to abut and I take your point about transferring the strain to the remaining coils but I'm not sure if it would cause the spring to prematurely fail (unless the rubber channel retains rainwater and causes corrosion)
The rubber assisters do allow 2 coils to abut and I take your point about transferring the strain to the remaining coils but I'm not sure if it would cause the spring to prematurely fail (unless the rubber channel retains rainwater and causes corrosion)
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Hi Dandy
I hope to get those air assister fitted (with compressor kit), and junk the coil jobbies. Can't say we have had any problems with bottoming out with them fitted, as even with the Bongo loaded to the gunn'ls and towing a caravan, they worked well.
I would, ideally like well lowered springs and hydraulics, but I remember going into this when we had a Type2, and it works out quite expensive, not to say complicated.
Cheers
Helen
I hope to get those air assister fitted (with compressor kit), and junk the coil jobbies. Can't say we have had any problems with bottoming out with them fitted, as even with the Bongo loaded to the gunn'ls and towing a caravan, they worked well.
I would, ideally like well lowered springs and hydraulics, but I remember going into this when we had a Type2, and it works out quite expensive, not to say complicated.
Cheers
Helen
In the beginning there was nothing , then God said "Let there be Light".....There was still nothing , but ,by crikey, you could see it better.