Central locking key

hatris · Post by **hatris** » Sun Oct 07, 2007 8:50 pm

Hi Our key has two button, lock, unlock. It stopped working and so we replaced the battery, it is still not working and man at motorfactors advises that it might need reset. Does anyone have any idea how you do this? Grateful for all help or a hint where help could be found, thank you.

francophile1947 · Post by **francophile1947** » Sun Oct 07, 2007 9:17 pm

If it's a proper Mazda one, try a dealer. If not, do you know whose system it is? - maybe they have a website you could contact them through.

hatris · Post by **hatris** » Sun Oct 07, 2007 9:36 pm

Hi francphile, thanks for reply. Don't really know if proper mazda key but when Harry had it open in motorfactors it had japanese writing on paper by the battery. Sorry all the info I have. Trish

francophile1947 · Post by **francophile1947** » Sun Oct 07, 2007 9:46 pm

Hi Trish - doesn't sound promising. Some can be reset by holding the fob by the ignition key, holding one button down, turning the ignition on for 6 seconds then turn the ignition off and release the button - you may need to try it with the other button if the first doesn't work. If that doesn't work then I'm sorry but I have no idea.

hatris · Post by **hatris** » Sun Oct 07, 2007 9:52 pm

Thanks John, I will give it a go. If not I will ask at the mazda place. Many thanks for your help.

vanvliet · Post by **vanvliet** » Sun Oct 07, 2007 11:30 pm

Our VW key was reset by VW dealer.I think that this was necessary because it had an engine imobiliser chip fitted
They apparently had to get info from Germany It happened under warranty so was free but I was told that they charge heaps outside the warranty period. If it is a genuine Mazda part then a Mazda dealer may be able to offer advice .
I am in the process of fitting a remote central locking system to our Bongo - no alarms - using the ebay kit noted in an earlier post .
I am no expert but (for £25 all in it is of good quality ) I suppose you could consider replacing the driver's door activator /keys with the ones in this kit if you are unable to come up with a solution to the duff key or if Mazda dealers quote a lot of money for a reset

hatris · Post by **hatris** » Mon Oct 08, 2007 10:06 am

Thank you for this information. Will give francophiles trick a go first, then maybe email chap I bought it from and get info on key and if all fails check out ebay. We are not competent with car maintenance. Maybe we will check back with you for info in the near future if that would be okay. Many thanks vanvilet.

bigdaddycain · Post by **bigdaddycain** » Mon Oct 08, 2007 10:49 am

I duno about the mazda method trish (if indeed its a mazda key)...

But i do know that if a ford system needs re-setting,there is a £25 - £30 charge.

With ford keys,you only have around 30 seconds to complete the key fob battery replacement procedure,or the system needs re-setting.

I was lucky last time i visited a dealer,a ford techie did a "psst" in my ear (

)and very kindly,(and discreetly) re-set the system for free for me.

It was a very complicated procedure,that involved various turns of the ignition and acc positions,interspersed with certain time periods, with key fob button presses,in certain orders i between.

I also recall that the "alarm on" LED light gave prompts,when the correct sequence had been carried out,giving the all clear for the next sequence in the re- setting procedure.

I'd have needed to film it really to know how to do it again,if the mazda way of re-setting is similar,it may be worth looking for a friendly looking technician,who may be up for the price of a pint

hatris · Post by **hatris** » Mon Oct 08, 2007 11:06 am

Thanks Bigdaddycain, there is no way we can do it ourselves I am struggling to post my pics on Northwest forum never mind setting keys.

bigdaddycain · Post by **bigdaddycain** » Mon Oct 08, 2007 11:10 am

...Good luck

hatris · Post by **hatris** » Wed Oct 10, 2007 7:13 pm

Thanks for the good luck Bigdaddycain. Took the key to a japanese car importer near Formby Tesco (didn't know they existed), who directed me to Northwest keys down Bootle. They tested the battery and used a machine and could get no signal coming from the van and sugested that they just stop working sometimes. They sugested go to mazda dealer. Not really expecting much help there. Got a few questions if anyone got a minute to answer.
1) could this be connected to loose or damp electric wires as the tailgate light started working only when it feels like about the same time?

2) This key locks the doors and is also the ignition key, but it is not connected to any alarm or imobilisor. What is the best option if I need to replace the system including where to get it fitted? Should I get an alarm included? Thanks for any tips. Trish

stringman · Post by **stringman** » Mon Oct 22, 2007 9:26 pm

I have just bought a 1996 which has the factory remote (mine has a seperate remote control it is not built into the key) I put a new battery in but it was still very hit or miss as to whether it worked. As I was fitting an alarm any way I tracked down the remote control unit which is a radio unit in the driver's door. It is pretty basic technology and being in the door could possibly get wet. It would be really easy to remove this unit and replace with an after market one or if fitting a remote alarm the red and green wires can be used as a polarity switching system (wired the same as if you were fitting a slave motor)
Hope this helps (I used to fit car alarms for a living

)

hatris · Post by **hatris** » Mon Oct 22, 2007 10:02 pm

Hi Thanks for your help. I have been remiss and did not post that we had sorted the issue. In addition we have not been fair to francophile who came up with the right answer first time. We did give this a quick try and then asked mazda who quoted £74 plus vat per hour and no guarantee and then approached a local auto electrician who offered to do us a whole new system for £160. Just before H left to go to the autoelectrician he held down the lock button and turned the key one turn and in a few seconds it worked. No more problems. Well done John don't know why I doubted you.

francophile1947 · Post by **francophile1947** » Tue Oct 23, 2007 2:05 pm

hatris wrote:Hi Thanks for your help. I have been remiss and did not post that we had sorted the issue. In addition we have not been fair to francophile who came up with the right answer first time. We did give this a quick try and then asked mazda who quoted £74 plus vat per hour and no guarantee and then approached a local auto electrician who offered to do us a whole new system for £160. Just before H left to go to the autoelectrician he held down the lock button and turned the key one turn and in a few seconds it worked. No more problems. Well done John don't know why I doubted you.

Alas Trish, life's a bitch and then you die - I can't believe people doubt me either

Glad it's sorted.