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HELP,HELP,HELP i got problems
Posted: Mon Feb 11, 2013 9:50 pm
by Bully bongo
Re: HELP,HELP,HELP i got problems
Posted: Mon Feb 11, 2013 10:44 pm
by westonwarrior
try the earth on the leisure battery first
Twice I have had problems with the split charger on both my cars and both times it was the earth
Re: HELP,HELP,HELP i got problems
Posted: Mon Feb 11, 2013 11:07 pm
by g8dhe
Try the earth on both batteries, but you say that the voltage on the S/B is also varying ?
Put a test on SB terminals and getting 14.2v then that would drop off then kick back in.
The Split charge relay will operate in sequence with that voltage varying, so my guess would be that there is something wrong with the charging of the S/B from the alternator. Slipping belt, faulty alternator etc. What about the Charge and Sediment lights are they on or slowly flashing in time with the voltage across the S/B ?
Re: HELP,HELP,HELP i got problems
Posted: Tue Feb 12, 2013 11:44 am
by Poohbear
Sounds like your alternator is on the way out. You shouldn't need to rev the engine to get 14.5V. It should be around 14.5V on tickover with no lights or anything else on.
Re: HELP,HELP,HELP i got problems
Posted: Tue Feb 12, 2013 1:27 pm
by Bully bongo
Hi there,no sediment or hold light on.Have took LB off to charge.I am getting 14.0v at SB when on tick over.Alternator only 18 months old.Without LB on when engine is running all that was connected to LB side is working ie internal lights, blinds ect.But when LB is disconnected my heater plug light is flashing until i rev engine.Got me really confused now

.Could this be indicating a faulty LB i wonder or is the split charger relay not working properly.Forgot to mention when i turn motor off without LB connected blinds wont work or central locking etc.So this to me is saying the split charger is doing its job.Could it have been i let LB get to low and its pulling power from SB side.HELP

Re: HELP,HELP,HELP i got problems
Posted: Tue Feb 12, 2013 2:21 pm
by helen&tony
Hi
Is it at all possible that the Leisure Battery is on it's last legs???
I had an LB that wasn't really up to the task, and didn't last as long as per usual????
Cheers
Helen
Re: HELP,HELP,HELP i got problems
Posted: Tue Feb 12, 2013 2:46 pm
by Poohbear
The sediment and hold lights don't always come on when your alternators shot. It seems to be a particular type of altenator failure that gives rise to the two lights. Neither light came on when our alternator went, but it wasn't charging and I could only get the output to 14.5V when revving the engine. Maybe it is your LB that is at fault? One way to check your split charging relay is to measure volts at both batteries with engine off and then with the volt meter on the LB watch the needle when you start the engine. After a time delay the volts should go up to 14.5 (or thereabouts) which confirms that the relay has switched and the alternator is charging the LB.
Re: HELP,HELP,HELP i got problems
Posted: Tue Feb 12, 2013 4:42 pm
by g8dhe
Yes it sounds like the L/B is not happy and pulling down the voltage, that might be because its flat, but it would have to be VERY flat. Give it a charge off the van and then try again, but you might find the L/B is knackered! How old is it, does it get a lot of use ?
Re: HELP,HELP,HELP i got problems
Posted: Tue Feb 12, 2013 8:43 pm
by Bully bongo

Hi there battery was right down,showing 7.8v.Put it on charge in garage.It is about 4 year old.Tried volt meter on SB with engine running getting about 14v without light on on tick over when its been running a little bit.Drops when lights are on.But reving her up its upto 14 plus volts.Been doing a lot of short runs over past month with lights on.Not giving LB or SB a chance to get any kind of charge

.Going to put LB back on the morn and see how we fair.Many thanks every one.Watch this space.
Re: HELP,HELP,HELP i got problems
Posted: Tue Feb 12, 2013 10:25 pm
by g8dhe
If the L/B is 4 years old and showing 7.5 volts I would be planning on replacing it sooner rather than latter! You might get a few more cycles out of it, but no where near its proper capacity I suggest!
Re: HELP,HELP,HELP i got problems
Posted: Wed Feb 13, 2013 3:18 pm
by Bully bongo
Re: HELP,HELP,HELP i got problems
Posted: Wed Feb 13, 2013 3:36 pm
by Poohbear
If that's "The
Starter Motor and Alternator
Company" in Plymouth I'd be interested to hear what the box, the alternator and the instruction leaflet say on them because I believe it will say 80A instead of 90A. I got mine from there nearly 2 years ago and I haven't had any problems and it seems to work well but I had an argument with them about advertising it as 90A and it actually being 80A. They did offer a refund but I'd already fitted it by the time I realised and then I couldn't be bothered with the hassle. The other thing is that the position of the electrical connection is slightly different which makes it a bit of a squeeze to get in. I'd be interedted to hear your feedback.
Re: HELP,HELP,HELP i got problems
Posted: Wed Feb 13, 2013 3:50 pm
by Bully bongo
Hi there got my last one from there in 2010.Thought i would get a bit longer than a couple of year out of it.But its out of warranty.Had no bother upto now.Spoke to the lad on the phone not 1 hour ago.I will keep you informed.When i spoke to him he said yes the bongo,s tend to hammer the alternators,we will see.Thanks again.
Re: HELP,HELP,HELP i got problems
Posted: Thu Feb 14, 2013 3:04 pm
by Bully bongo