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Re: Dog question???

Post by helen&tony » Thu Aug 06, 2015 6:29 pm

Hi Peter
Yes...I'm not bothered about people and what they own, either, and the important thing is to license dogs once more, and fine the owners for any indiscretion. My sister's dog was savaged by a staffie whilst she was walking her dog on a lead....fortunately the police prosecuted...and it be-littles the name of the breed yet again, when it's the owner's breeding that's REALLY in question!...Time and again there's news of dogs out of control, and it's not their fault. Our dogs are always on a lead...It's the law here, as in the UK, and it's ignored here, as in the UK. Frankly, it's ridiculous not to register dogs...and the owner should be responsible.
Our Willow had been beaten, her leg "gloved" and the skin stitched back, she was starved, and peed in the house for 9 months...poor little thing took years to stop shaking at the slightest excuse....We took her over from the RSPCA when she was 9 months...she's nearly 14, and lazy!
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Re: Dog question???

Post by BigPanzer » Thu Aug 06, 2015 8:16 pm

Helen - Here we go, getting off thread again! I think in one respect you are wrong. Personal opinion is that not only should the dog be licensed, neutered and chipped but the owners should be licensed too. New owners should have to attend puppy classes, not only because it helps socialise a young dog but also it trains the owner in the basics of how to bring up a well behaved and happy animal. When we were involved in the rescue charity we used to insist that first time owners attended a course. No course, no adoption! Our fosterers were also encouraged to take the charities dogs on courses (charged to the charity) whenever possible and at the last count I think I've been to around a dozen puppy courses!

There are too many people around who think that (for example) a Husky pup looks cute and lovable but they don't consider what happens when it gets big, strong and unpredictable because its natural instincts are not being catered for. I don't like "working" dogs being kept in a domestic situation unless the owner is breed savvy and this includes collies. Though Kam was a proper border collie he was getting on in years and past the time when he wanted to herd children. However the instinct was still there and he would always try to keep an eye on his "pack" when he was off lead - which was almost all of the time.
I think the most rewarding moment with him was when the trainer we used to use and myself put him through an unofficial KC Good Citizen silver test in the local park. He was almost faultless, which amazed the trainer because some time before she had branded him as "the most dangerous dog the charity had ever had" I was very proud of my efforts with him, but in truth he did most of the work, and for nothing more than a "good boy" and a quick pat.
By the way, Whisper is coming on, but very slowly. A bit like your Willow I suspect. Patience is a wonderful thing!

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Re: Dog question???

Post by helen&tony » Fri Aug 07, 2015 4:21 am

Hi Peter
Yes, I agree that the owners of some dogs should be chipped AND neutered....I find that many dog incidents are the owner's fault....
Seriously, licensing is a must, and I.D. cards for everyone and the dogs!...
Yes...I agree on training people to implant some idea as to what a dog is and what it does...and , hopefully make them understand what each breed does...for instance, certain breeds howl , some sing, some bark a lot, and so on. We have GSDs as well as the lurcher...they tend to be very vocal, and bark a fair bit...but here, the neighbours LIKE them barking...they are guards, and it's good protection all round...quite often I sit outside and hear dozens of dogs barking, talking to each other...in the UK it would be complaining season every day, but as it's so natural here I scarcely notice it!
I know what you mean about herding with collies...one of our dogs was a GSD x Doberman...or thereabouts...also a rescue dog, and highly aggressive when we got her...in fact a huge liability, and she was due to be destroyed, because she was a proper whirlwind with teeth, and we thought after the first night with us that she should not have been rescued, but we kept giving her chance after chance to prove herself...eventually she settled, but you could never leave her alone with other humans....She was great while we were there...even with kids...but on her own...NO...We had her trained off-lead, as that's what she seemed to need, and she performed just like a shepherd...circled us to check, wander off to inspect the vicinity, and come back and repeat....One day, a border collie got into our garden while she was in season...and we kept one of the pups...he behaved like the collie, and whilst mum did the shepherding, he did the sheep-herding, and rounded us up on a walk....great to see...Poor old Willow would run off hunting in the forest, and get lost...GUARANTEED!!!!.....which rather proves that a sight-hound is an open-space creature...and we think she would chase but not kill...she's a bit daft...poor old thing!
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Re: Dog question???

Post by Cab-ova pete » Sun Aug 09, 2015 3:40 pm

Hi thanks for all replies :shock: :lol: yes Big P I totally agree with that! Haze was given to me as a present from my son, I think he also felt it for me when spike left us, knowing how empty my home would be especially when I walk in from work? He was my life! Anyway my son knew what kind of life the new pup would have with me as he saw me for 14 years with spike, he was an Irish staff crossed with a English staff, what a dog! I knew both parents and they were both very good family pets, grown around me children, the rest was Upto me! Haze cost my son £500 and it was well spent, she is growing into a well mannered and obedient dog, still very playful with the kids and getting less bitey with her play, teeth just starting to fall out :lol: Haze is a very energetic breed and I am walking her three times a day and she is house trained now, I have been socialising her with all breeds and she is absolutely brilliant with them, unlike spike he hated anything with more than two legs? She has brought some life into the house as all the kids left home, I wouldn't change anything about her as she is perfect! I'm not sure if I mentioned anything about haze being kc registered as that means absolutely nothing to me :lol: 8):lol: I absolutely adore my dog and that's all I can say :D RIP Spikey my boy :( nice to hear you Mike and Big P, and you flossie
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Re: Dog question???

Post by Cab-ova pete » Sun Aug 09, 2015 3:54 pm

Hi mike, haze has the same markings colour and pattern as your bulldog, that must be the bulldog in her, although she has started to show a lot of black/blue hair on her back, from a distance she has a blue sheen to her coat, and I have read about a blue strain being involved, some of a litter will have black/blue marking on tongue? I'm just getting her bath ready, this will be fun?
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