Wiring up a new radio - help!
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Wiring up a new radio - help!
After a couple of years of only being able to receive Radio 2 through the radio that came with our Bongo, we finally gave in and have bought a new stereo, hurray! Now comes the small matter of fitting it.
I managed to remove the old radio and my hopes of it being a straightforward job were instantly dashed. This is what I was greeted with:
https://photos.app.goo.gl/P4wo8XrbbAe3RkzU9
https://photos.app.goo.gl/EykiCPPpDbDdyVUr6
When I ordered the stereo, the Halfords website told me I needed one of these adapters, https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B00 ... UTF8&psc=1 so I duly ordered one.
Although the adapter has not yet arrived, I can tell it's not going to fit.
I'm perturbed by the apparent wire splicing that has happened, so I'm wondering if I'm now out of my depth. Unfortunately, the old stereo has no identification whatsoever, so I've no hope of getting a wiring diagram for it.
I found this thread: viewtopic.php?t=73168 which has some very useful info in it, so that might be a glimmer of hope!
Page 32 of the manual for the new stereo has lots of useful connection info https://www.sony.co.uk/electronics/supp ... 96843M.pdf So I'm confident I know what's going on at that end.
So, in my head, it would be a process of working through the wiring detailed in the new stereo's manual, finding the equivalent wire in the thread linked above and splicing them together. Does that sound in any way sane?
I'm also concerned about the antenna, as you can perhaps see from the photos, it's wired in to the blue wire, so I'm not sure what's going on there. I'm also confused by the mention of:
Perm Live Blue/red
Acc Live Dark Blue
in the link above and am not sure what the difference is.
Wow, that was way longer than I expected and I'm *sure* it's much simpler than I'm making it, so any pointers at all will be gratefully received!
I managed to remove the old radio and my hopes of it being a straightforward job were instantly dashed. This is what I was greeted with:
https://photos.app.goo.gl/P4wo8XrbbAe3RkzU9
https://photos.app.goo.gl/EykiCPPpDbDdyVUr6
When I ordered the stereo, the Halfords website told me I needed one of these adapters, https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B00 ... UTF8&psc=1 so I duly ordered one.
Although the adapter has not yet arrived, I can tell it's not going to fit.
I'm perturbed by the apparent wire splicing that has happened, so I'm wondering if I'm now out of my depth. Unfortunately, the old stereo has no identification whatsoever, so I've no hope of getting a wiring diagram for it.
I found this thread: viewtopic.php?t=73168 which has some very useful info in it, so that might be a glimmer of hope!
Page 32 of the manual for the new stereo has lots of useful connection info https://www.sony.co.uk/electronics/supp ... 96843M.pdf So I'm confident I know what's going on at that end.
So, in my head, it would be a process of working through the wiring detailed in the new stereo's manual, finding the equivalent wire in the thread linked above and splicing them together. Does that sound in any way sane?
I'm also concerned about the antenna, as you can perhaps see from the photos, it's wired in to the blue wire, so I'm not sure what's going on there. I'm also confused by the mention of:
Perm Live Blue/red
Acc Live Dark Blue
in the link above and am not sure what the difference is.
Wow, that was way longer than I expected and I'm *sure* it's much simpler than I'm making it, so any pointers at all will be gratefully received!
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Re: Wiring up a new radio - help!
The connectors have been changed over the years, the version you have looks like it needs the PC2-78-4 adaptor to ISO standard, looking at the pictures, but try to confirm this before buying! The older version needed the PC2-10-4 version, searching those codes on Google will find you the various pictures and prices.
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Re: Wiring up a new radio - help!
What age van is it? Mine was a 2003 and total mare to sort out as it had some amazing aftermarket mini disc thing fitted. I'm now using a double din job that has sat nav etc. I'll look back through my receipts and see what adapter I used.
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Re: Wiring up a new radio - help!
Looking at the PC2-78-4 and my connector, I think you're right! I've ordered one (at £4 it's worth a shot). Fingers crossed. Many thanks for your help!g8dhe wrote: ↑Fri Nov 09, 2018 7:40 pm The connectors have been changed over the years, the version you have looks like it needs the PC2-78-4 adaptor to ISO standard, looking at the pictures, but try to confirm this before buying! The older version needed the PC2-10-4 version, searching those codes on Google will find you the various pictures and prices.
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Re: Wiring up a new radio - help!
Thanks very much for that. Mine is a 2002, so I'm guessing it would use the same adapter as you. As g8dhe mentioned, the PC2-78-4 looks like a likely candidate, so I'm going to give that a go. Thanks very much for your helpTheLongRoad wrote: ↑Fri Nov 09, 2018 8:42 pm What age van is it? Mine was a 2003 and total mare to sort out as it had some amazing aftermarket mini disc thing fitted. I'm now using a double din job that has sat nav etc. I'll look back through my receipts and see what adapter I used.
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Re: Wiring up a new radio - help!
Can confirm it was a PC2-78-4 that I used. I fitted one of the Pumpkin double din android head units that does the satnav and has a reverse camera. Has worked fine through the standard speakers.
Open your glove box and push the brackets in to remove the whole box. You can the get your hand behind the dash and see how to guide the cables behind the radio. Makes life easier.
Open your glove box and push the brackets in to remove the whole box. You can the get your hand behind the dash and see how to guide the cables behind the radio. Makes life easier.
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Re: Wiring up a new radio - help!
Thanks for checking, much appreciated! Thanks also for the glove box tip, that should simply things. Now to wait impatiently for the adapter to arrive!TheLongRoad wrote: ↑Sat Nov 10, 2018 2:31 pm Can confirm it was a PC2-78-4 that I used. I fitted one of the Pumpkin double din android head units that does the satnav and has a reverse camera. Has worked fine through the standard speakers.
Open your glove box and push the brackets in to remove the whole box. You can the get your hand behind the dash and see how to guide the cables behind the radio. Makes life easier.
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Re: Wiring up a new radio - help!
Which radio have you decided to fit? Double din or single?
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Re: Wiring up a new radio - help!
I went for this one in the end https://www.halfords.com/technology/car ... car-stereoTheLongRoad wrote: ↑Sat Nov 10, 2018 8:04 pm Which radio have you decided to fit? Double din or single?
Fitted it yesterday with the PC2-78-4 adapter mentioned earlier and it works perfectly. Thanks everyone for all your help!
Re: Wiring up a new radio - help!
Have you got a link? How are you finding it?TheLongRoad wrote: ↑Sat Nov 10, 2018 2:31 pm Pumpkin double din android head units that does the satnav and has a reverse camera.