Overheating/Gurgling etc

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Re: Overheating/Gurgling etc

Post by stevlor » Sat Jan 06, 2018 5:46 pm

Ian wrote: Tue Oct 03, 2017 2:31 pm It's this one: https://bongoland.co.uk/product/hose-61-213/ We have several in stock.
Sorry, been away for months and just getting round to this - where are you based Ian?
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Re: Overheating/Gurgling etc

Post by stevlor » Sat Jan 06, 2018 5:48 pm

Also, the bongo is in Leeds, do you think any garage would be ok to take it for fitting (I have no tools or anything here), or should I seek out a bongo specialist (I'm not sure there is one in Leeds actually...)
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Re: Overheating/Gurgling etc

Post by Bob » Sat Jan 06, 2018 6:31 pm

For any work on the cooling system I would seek out a Bongo Savvy garage, anything else is pretty standard old tech.

Someone may well know an expert near you, and the Bongomeister is based in Sheffield. 8)
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Re: Overheating/Gurgling etc

Post by stevlor » Wed Jan 10, 2018 4:18 pm

Bob wrote: Sat Jan 06, 2018 6:31 pm For any work on the cooling system I would seek out a Bongo Savvy garage, anything else is pretty standard old tech.

Someone may well know an expert near you, and the Bongomeister is based in Sheffield. 8)
Thanks Bob - no fit state to drive more than 5 mins without overheating so I took it local in the end, with the hose I ordered from bongoland. Hose fitted, coolant added (the pink GL12+ stuff) so fingers crossed that solves the problem.

However, when fitting the new hose, mechanic noticed another pipe had perished, and was leaking diesel (I wonder how long this has been going on for £££££ :shock:) He said that the hose fell apart when he touch it basically. He's fitted a bodge job but advised me to order one of the correct size, as he didn't have one. Soooo, anybody have any ideas what part this is (pic below) and where to get one?

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1PY-K3- ... sp=sharing

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1P62ueu ... sp=sharing

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1YKAq1w ... sp=sharing


Finally, he also said the hose below was perished, but that he didn't think it was important, a breather pipe?

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1V-My3a ... sp=sharing
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Re: Overheating/Gurgling etc

Post by Bob » Wed Jan 10, 2018 7:15 pm

Did you check the local chap has bled the system properly?

This is vital. :wink:
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Re: Overheating/Gurgling etc

Post by TheLongRoad » Wed Jan 10, 2018 10:49 pm

stevlor wrote: Wed Jan 10, 2018 4:18 pm
Bob wrote: Sat Jan 06, 2018 6:31 pm For any work on the cooling system I would seek out a Bongo Savvy garage, anything else is pretty standard old tech.

Someone may well know an expert near you, and the Bongomeister is based in Sheffield. 8)
Thanks Bob - no fit state to drive more than 5 mins without overheating so I took it local in the end, with the hose I ordered from bongoland. Hose fitted, coolant added (the pink GL12+ stuff) so fingers crossed that solves the problem.

However, when fitting the new hose, mechanic noticed another pipe had perished, and was leaking diesel (I wonder how long this has been going on for £££££ :shock:) He said that the hose fell apart when he touch it basically. He's fitted a bodge job but advised me to order one of the correct size, as he didn't have one. Soooo, anybody have any ideas what part this is (pic below) and where to get one?

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1PY-K3- ... sp=sharing

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1P62ueu ... sp=sharing

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1YKAq1w ... sp=sharing


Finally, he also said the hose below was perished, but that he didn't think it was important, a breather pipe?

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1V-My3a ... sp=sharing
The first picture looks like a mouse has been nibbling that rubber hose. They do that sort of thing. Don’t ask how I know :evil:
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Re: Overheating/Gurgling etc

Post by Northern Bongolow » Thu Jan 11, 2018 2:04 am

the only pipe i can think of in that area is the pipe from the vac pump pipe up to the solenoids on top of the rocker cover. this controls the vac to the cold starting solenoids and the egr valve.

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Re: Overheating/Gurgling etc

Post by stevlor » Thu Jan 11, 2018 10:54 am

Thanks for your help guys, I took it for a short drive yesterday after being in the mechanics - about 10 minutes in the temperature begins to rise and finally I had to pull over as I could hear the gurgling/boiling sound coming from behind the glove box :(

Following all of your advice, it really does need to see a bongo friendly garage, but if the closest one is in Sheffield - what should I do? I'm in the Leeds area and when I search for ones nearby I get Sheffield or Bongo Spares in Sowerby both of which are too far for her to drive to :cry:
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Re: Overheating/Gurgling etc

Post by teenmal » Thu Jan 11, 2018 12:20 pm

IF you are talking about the Diesel (leak off pipe) 9934104750 that runs down the back of the manifold to the pump this is the one you require.



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Re: Overheating/Gurgling etc

Post by Ian » Thu Jan 11, 2018 1:17 pm

stevlor wrote: Thu Jan 11, 2018 10:54 amFollowing all of your advice, it really does need to see a bongo friendly garage, but if the closest one is in Sheffield - what should I do? I'm in the Leeds area and when I search for ones nearby I get Sheffield or Bongo Spares in Sowerby both of which are too far for her to drive to :cry:
Strayside Garage in Harrogate (I know it's up the road a bit) are Bongo friendly and have a collection and delivery service.

https://www.yell.com/biz/strayside-gara ... e-2278427/
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Re: Overheating/Gurgling etc

Post by Bob » Thu Jan 11, 2018 2:52 pm

Either recovery as suggested by Ian or have a look at the videos and bleed it DIY. :wink:

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=jRAKOSxgbKo
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Re: Overheating/Gurgling etc

Post by stevlor » Tue Jan 16, 2018 10:18 am

Bob wrote: Thu Jan 11, 2018 2:52 pm Either recovery as suggested by Ian or have a look at the videos and bleed it DIY. :wink:

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=jRAKOSxgbKo
Wow great videos, thanks. Is there a chance that it is overheating just because it hasn't been bled properly andnothing more serious (crosses fingers)?

Would this coolant be ok: http://www.halfords.com/motoring/engine ... e-5-litres
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Re: Overheating/Gurgling etc

Post by Bob » Tue Jan 16, 2018 10:46 am

Videos by some well known Forum members, and they have done a great job.

That coolant should be fine, but you must be certain all the old stuff is flushed out if it's a different type. Anti freeze of different types isn't compatible, in spite of what our local Halfords told me. #-o
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Re: Overheating/Gurgling etc

Post by stevlor » Wed Jan 17, 2018 4:10 pm

Bob wrote: Tue Jan 16, 2018 10:46 am Videos by some well known Forum members, and they have done a great job.

That coolant should be fine, but you must be certain all the old stuff is flushed out if it's a different type. Anti freeze of different types isn't compatible, in spite of what our local Halfords told me. #-o
Heya, just followed the informative videos. Only one thing didn't go as planned, in the video they say it is very important that the thermostat reaches a certain temperature as it opens up a pipe which needs to get hot before you can properly complete the process of bleeding and refilling the coolant. They say the pipe is on the passenger side coming out of the radiator, we ran the engine for a good 40mins and it never got hot, the coolant was boiling by the end so we definitely got it hot enough, could this be the reason why the bongo is overheating in general - thermostat not working?

Anyway, I also wanted to double check I was feeling the right hose, embarrassing if not! Here's a pic, coming from the bottom left of the picture: https://drive.google.com/file/d/170lr0E ... sp=sharing
Or does anyone have a pic themselves so I can compare?

I'm now considering taking her out for a test run again, though should I wait till she is completely cooled and top up the coolant a bit at cold temps beforehand?
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Re: Overheating/Gurgling etc

Post by Northern Bongolow » Thu Jan 18, 2018 2:56 am

thats the right pipe, it should get hot as in you can hold it for about 5 secs before you have to let go. if its not hot then it aint bled,

did you go round squeezing hoses to help shift stubborn air pockets.
did you get hot heaters. both front and back, this will indicate if you have water circulating through them.

dont drive it till your sure.
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