Bongo acting up - help
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Re: Bongo acting up - help
please - SHOW BLINK-CODES! than - i try "translatet it"...
Re: Bongo acting up - help
They were actual code numbers the 2002 is OBDII compliant. but cannot recall fault codes, they were stuck in a 'loop'. Just driven another 100miles for a cold but lovely day out to the coast and back and all is good. Better mpg too.
2002 2.0 Aero with Outback Conversion and Roof Top Tent
Re: Bongo acting up - help
wow, lots has gone on since I've been here.
I suspected it wasn't an issue with the gearbox. Unfortunately I just don't think I'm going to find a mechanic over there who can speak enough English to make use of all this. I have decided to tow it back to the UK. I'm going over at Easter. Eastbourne would be convenient. Thanks for the recommendation. Alacrity, can you PM me your details please?
A more generic question re towing, but hoping someone can help. I've got access to a land rover and a flatbed trailer. Anything specific I need to know about towing a Bongo back through Germany and France on a flatbed? Heights, or weights etc? On my license I can tow up to 8,250kg.
Thanks in advance!!
I suspected it wasn't an issue with the gearbox. Unfortunately I just don't think I'm going to find a mechanic over there who can speak enough English to make use of all this. I have decided to tow it back to the UK. I'm going over at Easter. Eastbourne would be convenient. Thanks for the recommendation. Alacrity, can you PM me your details please?
A more generic question re towing, but hoping someone can help. I've got access to a land rover and a flatbed trailer. Anything specific I need to know about towing a Bongo back through Germany and France on a flatbed? Heights, or weights etc? On my license I can tow up to 8,250kg.
Thanks in advance!!
Re: Bongo acting up - help
Torque the trailer wheel nuts, check tyre pressures, and position the Bongo on the trailer so that the 'nose weight' is ( idealy) between 5/7% of the actual weight of the loaded trailer, but not above the maximum for the Land Rover.
Re: Bongo acting up - help
Thanks Bob.
So position the bongo towards the front of the trailer?
So position the bongo towards the front of the trailer?
Re: Bongo acting up - help
That will depend on the trailer, but load Bongy facing forwards and check the nose weight then adjust as necessary.
Also, there is a Fact Sheet, and this info:
https://caravanchronicles.com/guides/un ... of-towing/
Also, there is a Fact Sheet, and this info:
https://caravanchronicles.com/guides/un ... of-towing/
Re: Bongo acting up - help
Those tolls on the Autoroute's will be interesting!
2002 2.0 Aero with Outback Conversion and Roof Top Tent
Re: Bongo acting up - help
Another quick question. Will I need towing mirrors? I'm hoping not as the bongo isn't as wide as a caravan?!
Re: Bongo acting up - help
I would think not as Bongy is no wider than a Land Rover, but here's some info:
https://www.caravanwise.co.uk/caravan-t ... rrors.html
https://www.caravanwise.co.uk/caravan-t ... rrors.html
Re: Bongo acting up - help
A little update. I'm in Czech, with a trailer and a Land Rover. Unfortunately the Land Rover's alternator went on the way over, just to make things a little more interesting, so our little trip is going to be extended while we get this fixed!
A further question: If Bongo isn't starting, is it safe to put it in neutral to winch it onto the trailer?
Thanks to everyone for following this thread and helping out!
A further question: If Bongo isn't starting, is it safe to put it in neutral to winch it onto the trailer?
Thanks to everyone for following this thread and helping out!
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Re: Bongo acting up - help
As to pulling the Bongo on yes not a problem
Its only extended running as the oil pump in the transmission is driven by the engine side, if that is not turning then oil isn't being pumped around the transmission hence no cooling and the clutches and gears can overheat if its being towed for any distance at any speed.
Its only extended running as the oil pump in the transmission is driven by the engine side, if that is not turning then oil isn't being pumped around the transmission hence no cooling and the clutches and gears can overheat if its being towed for any distance at any speed.
Re: Bongo acting up - help
Hi all.
I have been reading this thread with great interest, probably going to create axiety with regards to my gear box.. but that aside, what do the abbreviations MAF and TP stand for.
I have been reading this thread with great interest, probably going to create axiety with regards to my gear box.. but that aside, what do the abbreviations MAF and TP stand for.
Re: Bongo acting up - help
Here you go fill yer boots.
Following is a comparison of the previous standard and the new standard. New Standard Previous Standard
Abbreviation
Name
Abbreviation
Name
Remark
AP Accelerator Pedal — Accelerator Pedal
ACL Air Cleaner — Air Cleaner
A/C Air Conditioning — Air Conditioning
BARO Barometric Pressure — Atmospheric Pressure
B Battery Positive Voltage VB Battery Voltage
— Brake Switch — Stoplight Switch
— Calibration Resistor — Corrected Resistance #6
CMP sensor
Camshaft Position Sensor — Crank Angle Sensor
CAC Charge Air Cooler — Intercooler
CLS Closed Loop System — Feedback System
CTP Closed Throttle Position — Fully Closed
— Closed Throttle Position Switch — Idle Switch
CPP Clutch Pedal Position — Clutch Position
CIS Continuous Fuel Injection System EGI Electronic Gasoline Injection System
CS sensor Control Sleeve Sensor
CSP sensor
Control Sleeve Position Sensor #6
CKP sensor
Crankshaft Position Sensor — Crank Angle Sensor 2
DLC Data Link Connector — Diagnosis Connector
DTM Diagnostic Test Mode — Test Mode #1
DTC Diagnostic Trouble Code(s) — Service Code(s)
DI Distributor Ignition — Spark Ignition
DLI Distributorless Ignition — Direct Ignition
EI Electronic Ignition — Electronic Spark Ignition #2
ECT Engine Coolant Temperature — Water Thermo
EM Engine Modification — Engine Modification
— Engine Speed Input Signal — Engine RPM Signal
EVAP Evaporative Emission — Evaporative Emission
EGR Exhaust Gas Recirculation — Exhaust Gas Recirculation
FC Fan Control — Fan Control
FF Flexible Fuel — Flexible Fuel
4GR Fourth Gear — Overdrive
— Fuel Pump Relay — Circuit Opening Relay #3
FSO solenoid
Fuel Shut Off Solenoid FCV Fuel Cut Valve #6
GEN Generator — Alternator
GND Ground — Ground/Earth
HO2S Heated Oxygen Sensor — Oxygen Sensor With heater
IAC Idle Air Control — Idle Speed Control
— Incorrect Gear Ratio — — #1: Diagnostic trouble codes depend on the diagnostic test mode #2: Controlled by the PCM #3: In some models, there is a fuel pump relay that controls pump speed. That relay is now called the fuel pump relay (speed). #6: Part name of diesel engine
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NEW STANDARDS
GI–9
New Standard Previous Standard
Abbreviation
Name
Abbreviation
Name
Remark
— Injection Pump FIP Fuel Injection Pump #6
— Input/Turbine Speed Sensor — Pulse Generator
IAT Intake Air Temperature — Intake Air Thermo
KS Knock Sensor — Knock Sensor
MIL Malfunction Indicator Lamp — Malfunction Indicator Light
MAP Manifold Absolute Pressure — Intake Air Pressure
MAF sensor
Mass Air Flow Sensor — Airflow Sensor
MFL Multiport Fuel Injection — Multiport Fuel Injection
OBD On-Board Diagnostic — Diagnosis/Self-Diagnosis
OL Open Loop — Open Loop
— Output Speed Sensor — Vehicle Speed Sensor 1
OC Oxidation Catalytic Converter — Catalytic Converter
O2S Oxygen Sensor — Oxygen Sensor
PNP Park/Neutral Position — Park/Neutral Range
— PCM Control Relay — Main Relay #6
PSP Power Steering Pressure — Power Steering Pressure
PCM Powertrain Control Module ECU Engine Control Unit #4
— Pressure Control Solenoid — Line Pressure Solenoid Valve
PAIR Pulsed Secondary Air Injection — Secondary Air Injection System
Pulsed injection — Pump Speed Sensor — NE Sensor #6
AIR Secondary Air Injection — Secondary Air Injection System
Inject with compressor
SAPV Secondary Air Pulse Valve — Reed Valve
SFI Sequential Multipoint Fuel Injection — Sequential Fuel Injection
— Shift Solenoid A
— 1–2 Shift Solenoid Valve
— Shift Solenoid A
— Shift A Solenoid Valve
Shift Solenoid B
— 2–3 Shift Solenoid Valve
— Shift Solenoid B
— Shift B Solenoid Valve
— Shift Solenoid C — 3–4 Shift Solenoid Valve
3GR Third Gear — 3rd Gear
TWC Three Way Catalytic Converter — Catalytic Converter
TB Throttle Body — Throttle Body
TP sensor Throttle Position Sensor — Throttle Sensor
TCV Timer Control Valve TCV Timing Control Valve #6
TCC Torque Converter Clutch — Lock-up Position
TCM
Transmission (Transaxle) Control Module
— EC-AT Control Unit
—
Transmission (Transaxle) Fluid Temperature Sensor
— ATF Thermosensor
TR Transmission (Transaxle) Range — Inhibitor Position
TC Turbocharger — Turbocharger
VSS Vehicle Speed Sensor — Vehicle Speed Sensor
VR Voltage Regulator — IC Regulator #4: Device that controls engine and powertrain #6: Part name of diesel engine
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NEW STANDARDS, ABBREVIATIONS
GI–10
New Standard Previous Standard
Abbreviation
Name
Abbreviation
Name
Remark
VAF sensor
Volume Air Flow Sensor — Air flow Sensor
WU-TWC
Warm Up Three Way Catalytic Converter
— Catalytic Converter #5
WOT Wide Open Throttle — Fully Open #5: Directly connected to exhaust manifold
ABBREVIATIONS
1ST First . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 2ND Second . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 2W 2-wheel . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 3RD Third . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 4TH Fourth . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 4W 4-wheel . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 5TH Fifth . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . BTDC Before top dead center . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . CARB Carburetor . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . CIS Continuous fuel injection . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . system EX Exhaust . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . FIP Fuel injection pump . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . HLA Hydraulic lash adjuster . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . H High . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . IN Intake . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . L Low . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . max. Maximum . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . min. Minimum . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . SST Special service tool . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . TDC Top dead center
Re: Bongo acting up - help
Thank you teenmal, that is just what I needed..
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Re: Bongo acting up - help
Update for you all.
We got stunews' s Bongo in here & it was, as thought clearly not a trans issue. We checked the pump fuel filter - clean, put fuel in it as it was showing none (guage not working) only for the engine to stop completely 1/2 mile later necessitating a short tow back to work. We got permission to replace the fuel filter & on removing found it 50% full of water & rusty inside. Now we knew what the issue was & again got permission to drop the tank & clean it as best we could. On removing we only got less that 20 litres of fuel/water out (into a clear 20ltr container) & that was 50% rusty water. Given we had added fuel it must have been pretty much only water in the tank when we got the vehicle. The tank was cleaned as best we could - a rusty tide mark inside - refitted & fresh fuel added. All runs well again luckily for the owner.
We have suggested the fuel filter is changed again at 500 miles & a correct filler cap fitted as there is effectively very little in the way of a filler cap on it at the moment, just the very broken remains of a universal plastic one.
We got stunews' s Bongo in here & it was, as thought clearly not a trans issue. We checked the pump fuel filter - clean, put fuel in it as it was showing none (guage not working) only for the engine to stop completely 1/2 mile later necessitating a short tow back to work. We got permission to replace the fuel filter & on removing found it 50% full of water & rusty inside. Now we knew what the issue was & again got permission to drop the tank & clean it as best we could. On removing we only got less that 20 litres of fuel/water out (into a clear 20ltr container) & that was 50% rusty water. Given we had added fuel it must have been pretty much only water in the tank when we got the vehicle. The tank was cleaned as best we could - a rusty tide mark inside - refitted & fresh fuel added. All runs well again luckily for the owner.
We have suggested the fuel filter is changed again at 500 miles & a correct filler cap fitted as there is effectively very little in the way of a filler cap on it at the moment, just the very broken remains of a universal plastic one.
35+ years working with autogearboxes - all day every day......for my sins