New and confused - lack of power/ boost
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- Apprentice Bongonaut
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New and confused - lack of power/ boost
Hi there.
We've had our 2000 2.5td 4x4 auto Bongo for about a year. Apart from being an awesome thing it has one fault that I can't seem to get anyone to understand or fix!!!
When it's cold it goes like the clappers. When it warms up the turbo seems to stop working
I've had a good look and the bit that sits right next to the turbo seems to be the thing that's causing the problem. When it's cold the little rod moves back and forward and the engine boosts up. When it heats up the piece moves right toward the turbo and stops moving - then no boost. If I move it, or fix it in place where it sits when it's cold - then boost!
2 questions then I guess...
What's up with it?!
Will it do any harm fixing the rod in place so the engine can boost up?
Any help welcome...! Oh and hello everyone!
We've had our 2000 2.5td 4x4 auto Bongo for about a year. Apart from being an awesome thing it has one fault that I can't seem to get anyone to understand or fix!!!
When it's cold it goes like the clappers. When it warms up the turbo seems to stop working
I've had a good look and the bit that sits right next to the turbo seems to be the thing that's causing the problem. When it's cold the little rod moves back and forward and the engine boosts up. When it heats up the piece moves right toward the turbo and stops moving - then no boost. If I move it, or fix it in place where it sits when it's cold - then boost!
2 questions then I guess...
What's up with it?!
Will it do any harm fixing the rod in place so the engine can boost up?
Any help welcome...! Oh and hello everyone!
Re: Hi - new & confused...
Hi, and welcome to the Forum.
No idea with your problem but we have some great techie peeps here.
No idea with your problem but we have some great techie peeps here.
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Re: Hi - new & confused...
is it a winter pack model with the valve in the exhaust and a switch by your right knee with an engine symbol on it ??
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Re: Hi - new & confused...
Hi! Thanks for replying
There's no switch so I guess it's not a winter pack one
There's no switch so I guess it's not a winter pack one
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Re: Hi - new & confused...
Post your location, someone local may can help you
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Re: Hi - new & confused...
Sounds like a problem with the vacuum controlled variable vane turbo. Other people have had similar issues which are typically accompanied with flashing warning light.
Have a read thru some these to see if there is any info that may help: http://igmaynard.co.uk/bongo/forum/sear ... mit=Search
Have a read thru some these to see if there is any info that may help: http://igmaynard.co.uk/bongo/forum/sear ... mit=Search
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Re: New and confused - lack of power/ boost
It all sounds a tad confusing. If I use a pair of mole grips to keep the little rod that goes from the vacuum to the turbo in the middle the van goes brilliantly. Is this likely to cause any problems. In my mind it's just keeping it the way it sits before it gets hot & moves and stops the boost?
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Re: New and confused - lack of power/ boost
1362 on this drawing goes to the turbo i think.
http://lushprojects.com/bongopartsmk2/c ... 2of03.html.
check all the pipes and see if all the solenoid switches are working when they should be. most of the solenoids tend to switch at or around the 50degc coolant temp point, this is when its (at working temperature ) and the glow plugs switch off etc, so it sounds like something isnt switching when it reaches this temp. the temperature is got from the fan switch via the ecu, then to the 12v solenoids, to test each one just unplug from the loom (and therefore the ecu) then put 12 volts to each one in turn you should hear it click, they are polarity conscious so try both ways when wiring them, get a piece of pipe and maybe blow through or test for suction on each one.
http://lushprojects.com/bongopartsmk2/c ... 2of03.html.
check all the pipes and see if all the solenoid switches are working when they should be. most of the solenoids tend to switch at or around the 50degc coolant temp point, this is when its (at working temperature ) and the glow plugs switch off etc, so it sounds like something isnt switching when it reaches this temp. the temperature is got from the fan switch via the ecu, then to the 12v solenoids, to test each one just unplug from the loom (and therefore the ecu) then put 12 volts to each one in turn you should hear it click, they are polarity conscious so try both ways when wiring them, get a piece of pipe and maybe blow through or test for suction on each one.
Re: New and confused - lack of power/ boost
What fuel are you using?
Our 2001 Bongo didn't like supermarket fuel and went into limp mode when hot.
Using branded fuel, no problems.
Our 2001 Bongo didn't like supermarket fuel and went into limp mode when hot.
Using branded fuel, no problems.
Re: New and confused - lack of power/ boost
i would persevere with fixing the root cause. They must go to the expense of building variable vane turbo for good reason. (Apart from limp mode to protect an engine with a perceived problem!!)Gandjbears wrote:It all sounds a tad confusing. If I use a pair of mole grips to keep the little rod that goes from the vacuum to the turbo in the middle the van goes brilliantly. Is this likely to cause any problems. In my mind it's just keeping it the way it sits before it gets hot & moves and stops the boost?
Chris with BertieB
'96 White unconverted AFT 2.5L Diesel 4WD
'96 White unconverted AFT 2.5L Diesel 4WD
Re: New and confused - lack of power/ boost
Check all the tubes and valves under the passenger seat around the turbo area.
There is also a pipe coming up from the front of the engine which feeds vacuuum to these various valves. If any of these are leaking or the valves have failed then it will cause a problem.
There is also a pipe coming up from the front of the engine which feeds vacuuum to these various valves. If any of these are leaking or the valves have failed then it will cause a problem.