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Re: heater blowers stopped working

Post by Simon Jones » Thu Jan 30, 2014 9:25 pm

mellon man wrote:Cleaned levees and debris from front of heater rad (should there be some sort of gauze filter on here to stop this happening) :?:
Mazda fitted a plastic mesh on some later models, but you could achieve same effect with a pair of tights (yours or your missus - once she's taken them off :) ) stretched over the rectangular aperture where the intake cowling joins on.
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Re: heater blowers stopped working

Post by mellon man » Thu Jan 30, 2014 9:34 pm

Simon Jones wrote:
mellon man wrote:Cleaned levees and debris from front of heater rad (should there be some sort of gauze filter on here to stop this happening) :?:
Mazda fitted a plastic mesh on some later models, but you could achieve same effect with a pair of tights (yours or your missus - once she's taken them off :) ) stretched over the rectangular aperture where the intake cowling joins on.
Good tip - Thankyou
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Re: heater blowers stopped working

Post by mikeonb4c » Fri Jan 31, 2014 12:21 am

mellon man wrote:UPDATE 2 :

Drain hole and pipe unblocked and cleaned
Tried motor but was struggling only any sort of air output at settings 2 & 3
Front air intake cowling removed to access fan, fan blades did not seem all that easy to move
Removed top cowling & fan housing (straight forward once moved fuse box & It's mounting plate)
Removed fan from rear of It's housing, but unable to access bearing :?
Took off motor back cover, full of rust inside cleaned it all off and reassembled motor put some grease in dimple in alloy back cover, fan was must freer to move
Cleaned all dirt and dust from fan blades (this took longer than all the rest of this repair) !
Cleaned levees and debris from front of heater rad (should there be some sort of gauze filter on here to stop this happening) :?:
Put all back together and fan now works brilliant at all speeds :)

Just in time as had it working flat out as only 2oC today :D
You've just done the exact same job I did some years back. Fan has been trouble free ever since and no more mildewy smells. Well done :-)
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Re: heater blowers stopped working

Post by mellon man » Fri Jan 31, 2014 8:49 am

You've just done the exact same job I did some years back. Fan has been trouble free ever since and no more mildewy smells. Well done :-)[/quote]

Cheers mikeonb4c and Simon - could not have done it without your help & advice =D>
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Re: heater blowers stopped working

Post by mikeonb4c » Fri Jan 31, 2014 9:26 am

mellon man wrote:You've just done the exact same job I did some years back. Fan has been trouble free ever since and no more mildewy smells. Well done :-)
Cheers mikeonb4c and Simon - could not have done it without your help & advice =D>[/quote]

No problem. I'm not in the same league though as Simon, Northern Bongolow (Ady to me :lol: ) etc. when it comes to Bongousefulness :-)
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Re: heater blowers stopped working

Post by mellon man » Fri Jan 31, 2014 10:41 am

Cheers mikeonb4c and Simon - could not have done it without your help & advice =D>[/quote]

No problem. I'm not in the same league though as Simon, Northern Bongolow (Ady to me :lol: ) etc. when it comes to Bongousefulness :-)[/quote]

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Re: heater blowers stopped working

Post by mikeonb4c » Fri Jan 31, 2014 11:52 am

mellon man wrote:Cheers mikeonb4c and Simon - could not have done it without your help & advice =D>
No problem. I'm not in the same league though as Simon, Northern Bongolow (Ady to me :lol: ) etc. when it comes to Bongousefulness :-)[/quote]

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Re: heater blowers stopped working

Post by ginger colin » Mon Aug 11, 2014 9:40 pm

Hi... this is the closest thread I can find to my fault.

I have year 2000 petrol 2 litre. The fuses / wiring looks very common for most models.

My front fan stopped running.
here is what I have tested

rear fan runs on front fan setting 1 and above
applied 12v to plug on back of radiatior.front fan runs ok
fan spins freely by hand
Under bonnet fuse no.17 30amp ok
rear heater fan running so fuse no.15 ok.
resistor pack not yet checked

It looks like im not getting and power to the fan
Any other tips appreciated
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Re: heater blowers stopped working

Post by Simon Jones » Mon Aug 11, 2014 10:09 pm

Have you got manual or digital climate controls? The manual ones have a resistor pack which are prone to failure if the bearings are tight as this places extra current through the resistor which tends to melt the solder connections. I would guess yours is the later type with a transistor in place of the resistor and these seem more resilient but if they do fail, it's a little trickier / expensive to fix.

Best bet would be to try to get the loan of another unit to swap it over.
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Re: heater blowers stopped working

Post by g8dhe » Mon Aug 11, 2014 10:20 pm

If you do have the transistor type then it will only operate when set for MAX fan setting (a relay bypasses the transistor), the transistors are available its a 2SD1525 type see ebay search http://www.ebay.co.uk/sch/i.html?_nkw=2 ... 525&crdt=0
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Re: heater blowers stopped working

Post by Northern Bongolow » Mon Aug 11, 2014 10:25 pm

you say that you have powered the front rad fans. the loom that supplies these is located behind the top of the front rad, off this same loom you will see the supply wire that supplies the heater fan, try putting a new 12v to this, sometimes its the resister, sometimes its the motor of the heater, sometimes its a badly corroded heater motor that takes out the resister. #-o :wink:
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Re: heater blowers stopped working

Post by ginger colin » Tue Aug 12, 2014 1:30 pm

My front fan stopped running.
here is what I have tested

rear fan runs on front fan setting 1 and above
applied 12v to plug on back of radiatior.front fan runs ok
fan spins freely by hand
Under bonnet fuse no.17 30amp ok
rear heater fan running so fuse no.15 ok.
resistor pack not yet checked

It looks like im not getting and power to the fan
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Cheers for the tips...its manual controls
g8dhe mentioned if its the transistor type the fan should still run on full, it doesnt run at all.....
Where is the resistor / transitors clock located a wire could be off

This is useful
http://www.g8dhe.net/bwm/bwmanualp.htm?1995/Page_84
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Re: heater blowers stopped working

Post by Simon Jones » Tue Aug 12, 2014 2:08 pm

Manual controls will use a resistor. It's mounted on a heatsink which is under a black plastic cover on top of the main heater unit under the bonnet. The fins of the heatsink are located in the airflow from the fan to keep it cool. This is what it looks like. The highlight shows where one of the solder joints has come undone:
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Re: heater blowers stopped working

Post by ginger colin » Tue Aug 12, 2014 7:00 pm

Hi simon... cheers for pic and info

I pulled it out and it looks Ok.. I checked the resistances keeping a probe on L each tab read approx 0.5 ohms (im not sure if this is correct)

My vin is sgew-4007**
The Wiring diagram for my Vin would not load up but the earlier model looks like it might be the same
http://www.g8dhe.net/bwm/bwmanualp.htm?1997/Page_78

Above the motor in the diagram is G1-03 relay.... This is located behind the main battery Small Black wire small green wire and a large Blue and a large Blue and white. I removed the relay and shorted the Blue and Blue and white

"Still no luck"
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