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New MOT test in 2012

Post by gasace » Thu Dec 15, 2011 6:50 pm

Hi
Does anyone know exactly when the changes come in, and what will now be tested? Someone told me the heater(demister) will be included, but I can find nothing about this on the web.

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Re: New MOT test in 2012

Post by jaylee » Thu Dec 15, 2011 6:59 pm

I heard wiring looms for loose wires/chaffing, and fuel lines/hoses will be checked too..!?
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Re: New MOT test in 2012

Post by Ron Miel » Thu Dec 15, 2011 7:09 pm

http://motorcaravanners.eu/index.php?op ... 7&Itemid=1

http://www.theaa.com/motoring_advice/ca ... -2012.html

If you're a masochist, you can get much more detailed info on all this from VOSA notices, directives and the MOT Manual (.pdf), on the main VOSA website. It's so buried in terabytes of bureaucratspeak though, that when I tried to read it, I quickly lost the will to live.

Anyone know if this one is still on the cards?: http://www.independent.co.uk/life-style ... 66060.html

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Re: New MOT test in 2012

Post by perros huevos » Thu Dec 15, 2011 8:06 pm

hid's are a failure they should be self leveling & have headlamp wash, dont you just hate oncoming cars that blind you!!
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Re: New MOT test in 2012

Post by westonwarrior » Thu Dec 15, 2011 8:46 pm

Products on the lens or light source that obviously reduce the light's intensity or change its colour will become a reason for failure – applies to front/rear position lamps, registration plate lamps, stop lamps, rear fog and direction indicators,

so those fly eye mesh covered lights may fail now,

they look good too and I was thinking of doing it myself
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Re: New MOT test in 2012

Post by mikexgough » Mon Dec 19, 2011 12:57 pm

The main changes from 2012

Electronic parking brake
Electronic parking brake controls are now included and must be present and not inappropriately repaired or modified - repair obviously likely to adversely affect the roadworthiness of the vehicle or modification that has seriously weakened the component.

(The 'inappropriately repaired or modified' check is to be applied to a wide range of systems and components throughout the vehicle.)

The car will fail if an Electronic Parking Brake warning lamp is illuminated to indicate a malfunction.

Electronic Stability Control

Checks of antilock brakes will be extended to include Electronic Stability Control if fitted. The tester will check for the presence and correct operation of the ESC malfunction warning light together with looking for obviously missing, excessively damaged or inappropriately repaired or modified components and electrical wiring, as well as an ESC switch missing, insecure or faulty.

Warning lights

As well as electronic parking brake and electronic stability control warning lights (where fitted) the MOT test will also include checks for the correct function of the following, where fitted;

Headlight main beam warning light
Electronic power steering warning light
Brake fluid level warning light
Tyre pressure monitoring system warning light
Air bag warning light
Seat belt pre-tensioner warning light
Steering & suspension
The new test includes a check on the presence and correct function of the steering lock where fitted as standard.

Missing, or split/damaged dust covers on steering and suspension ball-joints will result in failure if they will allow dirt to enter the joint.

Power steering fluid level must be above the minimum level indicated on the reservoir.

Lighting
Products on the lens or light source that obviously reduce the light's intensity or change its colour will become a reason for failure – applies to front/rear position lamps, registration plate lamps, stop lamps, rear fog and direction indicators,

Headlight requirements are updated to take account of the particular characteristics of High Intensity Discharge (HID) lamps.

HID headlights can cause dazzle if they are dirty or aimed too high so car manufacturers must fit headlamp cleaning and levelling systems. A car will fail if a mandatory headlamp cleaning or levelling system is missing, doesn't work or is obviously defective.

Vehicles fitted with aftermarket HID systems must also be fitted with properly working washer and levelling systems.

If a headlamp bulb is not seated correctly the resulting beam pattern will be indistinct and this will result in a test fail.

Electrical wiring and battery
An insecure battery will be a reason for failure as will a battery that is leaking electrolyte.

Visible wiring that is insecure, inadequately supported or likely to cause a short will also result in a failure as will wires bared by damaged insulation.

Trailer/caravan electrical socket
There will be a basic security/damage check of 7-pin sockets,

13-pin sockets will be subject to a full electrical connectivity check and incorrectly connected or inoperative circuits will result in failure.

Tyres
Tyre pressure monitoring systems fitted to vehicles first registered after 1 January 2012 must be working correctly and not indicating a malfunction.

Supplementary restraints
The vehicle will fail the test if any airbag fitted as original equipment is obviously missing or defective.

A seatbelt pre-tensioner fitted as original equipment but missing or that has obviously deployed will be a reason for failure.

Seatbelt load limiters that are missing where fitted as standard or folding webbing type limiters that have obviously deployed are also reasons for failure.

The vehicle will also fail if an SRS malfunction light is missing, not working or indicating a fault.

Speedometer
The car will fail if a speedometer is not fitted, is incomplete, inoperative, has a dial glass broken/missing or cannot be illuminated.

Seats
It must be possible to secure the driver's seat fore and aft adjustment mechanism in two or three different positions. On electric seats the motors must move the seat fore and aft.

Doors
A rear door that cannot be opened from the outside using the relevant control is a new reason for failure.

Doors must be easy to open and close – hinges, catches and pillars will be inspected.

Towbars
Inappropriate repair or modification to the towbar assembly will be a reason for failure if judged likely to affect the roadworthiness of the vehicle/trailer.

Exhaust
A catalytic convertor fitted as original equipment but missing will be a reason for failure.

Fuel system
Damaged or chafed fuel pipes will result in failure.
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Re: New MOT test in 2012

Post by MarkM » Mon Dec 19, 2011 9:01 pm

Blimey!
There are going to be an awful lot of HID conversion kits coming back off or some inventive ways round cleaning/self levelling...

Test prices are probably going up then with all those extra checks.
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Re: New MOT test in 2012

Post by gasace » Tue Dec 20, 2011 7:37 am

Thanks for the list, on a selfish note my Bong should be OK :D :D :D
mikexgough wrote:The main changes from 2012

Electronic parking brake
Electronic parking brake controls are now included and must be present and not inappropriately repaired or modified - repair obviously likely to adversely affect the roadworthiness of the vehicle or modification that has seriously weakened the component.

(The 'inappropriately repaired or modified' check is to be applied to a wide range of systems and components throughout the vehicle.)

The car will fail if an Electronic Parking Brake warning lamp is illuminated to indicate a malfunction.

Electronic Stability Control

Checks of antilock brakes will be extended to include Electronic Stability Control if fitted. The tester will check for the presence and correct operation of the ESC malfunction warning light together with looking for obviously missing, excessively damaged or inappropriately repaired or modified components and electrical wiring, as well as an ESC switch missing, insecure or faulty.

Warning lights

As well as electronic parking brake and electronic stability control warning lights (where fitted) the MOT test will also include checks for the correct function of the following, where fitted;

Headlight main beam warning light
Electronic power steering warning light
Brake fluid level warning light
Tyre pressure monitoring system warning light
Air bag warning light
Seat belt pre-tensioner warning light
Steering & suspension
The new test includes a check on the presence and correct function of the steering lock where fitted as standard.

Missing, or split/damaged dust covers on steering and suspension ball-joints will result in failure if they will allow dirt to enter the joint.

Power steering fluid level must be above the minimum level indicated on the reservoir.

Lighting
Products on the lens or light source that obviously reduce the light's intensity or change its colour will become a reason for failure – applies to front/rear position lamps, registration plate lamps, stop lamps, rear fog and direction indicators,

Headlight requirements are updated to take account of the particular characteristics of High Intensity Discharge (HID) lamps.

HID headlights can cause dazzle if they are dirty or aimed too high so car manufacturers must fit headlamp cleaning and levelling systems. A car will fail if a mandatory headlamp cleaning or levelling system is missing, doesn't work or is obviously defective.

Vehicles fitted with aftermarket HID systems must also be fitted with properly working washer and levelling systems.

If a headlamp bulb is not seated correctly the resulting beam pattern will be indistinct and this will result in a test fail.

Electrical wiring and battery
An insecure battery will be a reason for failure as will a battery that is leaking electrolyte.

Visible wiring that is insecure, inadequately supported or likely to cause a short will also result in a failure as will wires bared by damaged insulation.

Trailer/caravan electrical socket
There will be a basic security/damage check of 7-pin sockets,

13-pin sockets will be subject to a full electrical connectivity check and incorrectly connected or inoperative circuits will result in failure.

Tyres
Tyre pressure monitoring systems fitted to vehicles first registered after 1 January 2012 must be working correctly and not indicating a malfunction.

Supplementary restraints
The vehicle will fail the test if any airbag fitted as original equipment is obviously missing or defective.

A seatbelt pre-tensioner fitted as original equipment but missing or that has obviously deployed will be a reason for failure.

Seatbelt load limiters that are missing where fitted as standard or folding webbing type limiters that have obviously deployed are also reasons for failure.

The vehicle will also fail if an SRS malfunction light is missing, not working or indicating a fault.

Speedometer
The car will fail if a speedometer is not fitted, is incomplete, inoperative, has a dial glass broken/missing or cannot be illuminated.

Seats
It must be possible to secure the driver's seat fore and aft adjustment mechanism in two or three different positions. On electric seats the motors must move the seat fore and aft.

Doors
A rear door that cannot be opened from the outside using the relevant control is a new reason for failure.

Doors must be easy to open and close – hinges, catches and pillars will be inspected.

Towbars
Inappropriate repair or modification to the towbar assembly will be a reason for failure if judged likely to affect the roadworthiness of the vehicle/trailer.

Exhaust
A catalytic convertor fitted as original equipment but missing will be a reason for failure.

Fuel system
Damaged or chafed fuel pipes will result in failure.
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Re: New MOT test in 2012

Post by scanner » Tue Dec 20, 2011 10:21 am

MarkM wrote:There are going to be an awful lot of HID conversion kits coming back off
and after having been blinded by a bouncy Hondoyotabishi thingie last weekend, I reckon that can only be a good thing.
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Re: New MOT test in 2012

Post by dunslair » Tue Dec 20, 2011 11:26 am

scanner wrote:
MarkM wrote:There are going to be an awful lot of HID conversion kits coming back off
and after having been blinded by a bouncy Hondoyotabishi thingie last weekend, I reckon that can only be a good thing.
I agree 100% with clamping down on after market mods that are not up to the job, but I will be very unhappy if I have to modify my factory fitted and mazda designed HID lights, which don't appear to give other road users any problems and which give very good, well directioned illumination. :roll:
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Re: New MOT test in 2012

Post by scanner » Tue Dec 20, 2011 11:33 am

Unfortunately it doesn't always work that way, the excesses of such as the pimp brigade tends to bring the heavy hand of officialdom down on everybody's bum and as the Bongo wasn't officially imported and thus not "E" mark homologated, your factory fitted units may only be (officially) viewed in the same way as after market units. :cry:
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Re: New MOT test in 2012

Post by Ron Miel » Tue Dec 20, 2011 11:40 am

It's time to 1.) make piping illegal, and 2.) withdraw from the EU - assuming, that is, we don't get thrown out first. Oh, and Happy Christmas all 8)

EDIT: Heh! That was Freudian. Meant "pimping", of course.....but then I don't know, maybe not? What do you think up there in the land of the baggy trumpet?
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Re: New MOT test in 2012

Post by dunslair » Tue Dec 20, 2011 11:45 am

Ron Miel wrote:It's time to 1.) make piping illegal, and 2.) withdraw from the EU - assuming, that is, we don't get thrown out first. Oh, and Happy Christmas all 8)
Number 1 is not going to go down well North of the border :wink: do you think we would be OK playing the chanter quietly. :lol: :lol: I guess I will need to wait until next December to see if the local tester picks up on the lights or not. :roll:
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Re: New MOT test in 2012

Post by Ron Miel » Tue Dec 20, 2011 12:13 pm

dunslair wrote:
Ron Miel wrote:It's time to 1.) make piping illegal, and 2.) withdraw from the EU - assuming, that is, we don't get thrown out first. Oh, and Happy Christmas all 8)
Number 1 is not going to go down well North of the border :wink: do you think we would be OK playing the chanter quietly. :lol: :lol: I guess I will need to wait until next December to see if the local tester picks up on the lights or not. :roll:
Bound to be some clues long before then, from earlier MOTs done for HID-equipped peeps but good luck, and hope it's not a problem. Meanwhile, there's some as say properly dipped non-HID bagpipes ought to be considered next by the waffling waffle-eaters in Brussels :)
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Re: New MOT test in 2012

Post by dandywarhol » Tue Dec 20, 2011 12:36 pm

Evidence of "chipped" ECus are also on the cards - that'll get the Scooby fraternity jumping!
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