Front fogs not working

[bongo frenzee]

I noticed today that my front fog lamps are both not working (I have a new shape 1999 TD). Changed the fuse but that didn't help so I'm wondering if the bulbs have both blown - does anyone have any tips on changing the bulbs? The factsheet only covers headlamps, side lamps and rear cluster.

Any other things I should check if the bulbs are ok? (Please be as non-technical as possible as I am very new to motor maintenance of any description!)

Thanks.

[dave_aber]

It could be the relay. E2-02 on this drawing.

It's the furthest forward one on the passenger's side - here

Easiest way to check it out is to swap the wiring from it over to the relay behind it, and vice-versa. See if that fixes it.

[bongo frenzee]

Thanks, but I think that's a bit advanced for me! Will try the bulbs if I can work out how to change them...

[dave_aber]

It's most unlikely that the 2 bulbs have gone at the same time. (One may have been blown for a while though?). However, it's probably easier to swap the 2 relay cables over than getting into the bulbs.

Do you have a leisure battery, or a twin battery ? If so, then it isn't as easy as the second battery is in the way.

If you have only got one battery, then open the bonnet, look to the right and along the inner wing you should see 4 relays which have black rubber hoods on them.

Find the front-most one of these 4, and lift up the rubber hood, and you will see a wiring connector plugged in the bottom of the relay. Squeeze the release clip, and pull the connector down and it will disconnect. Do the same for the one next to it, and plug your 'front' wire into the second relay. Your fogs are now using another relay as a test. If they now work, then you need to replace the relay.

(Can't find out quickly what the second one does. The 2 behind these are sidelights and headlights)

This is all assuming that you have standard factory-fit front foglights.

[bongo frenzee]

Thanks, that sounds a bit easier to follow!

I do have a leisure battery (and factory-fitted fogs) so I'll see if I can work it out. If not I'll see if my brother-in-law can sort it out at Xmas, as he knows Bongos.

Cheers

[Gripped]

Also have a look in the front wheel arches. There should be a wire going to the back of the fog lamp. Check that it hasn't been disconnected.