VW Shares crash - time to hang on to that Bongo :-)

[Diplomat]

YES ITS A VW.

I hope that, in this instance, 'the car in front' isn't a Toyota and certainly not a Mazda.


Frank

[philpdr]

YES ITS A VW.

Software glitch?

[daveblueozzie]

Its passed its emissions test.

[philpdr]

Good to see they're back on track.

I'll get me coat.

[Jim the Box]

The thing is my mate is paying £30 per year for his road tax based on emissions output details for his diesel VW, if they are faked, he could up paying considerably more and also his vehicle may even drop in value, can of worms springs to mind.

[Northern Bongolow]

the owners have been allowed to blag a lower road tax amount based on emissions quoted by the manufacturer, this gain will almost certainly be wiped out with lower resale values. the news that the owners wont have to pay the back duty/tax as they were sold something that is misdescribed may also be offset by the fact that the offending motors may need to be moved into a different tax bracket costing the owners more dosh.

what a bloody mess. .

[helen&tony]

Hi
There's an awful lot that could be considered in this affair, and I think those shouldering the blame are just scapegoats. The German economy depends quite heavily on the car industry, and when it was realised that without considerable cost and re-development which must have been un-affordable at the moment, engines which obviously can't meet the required emission standards had to have something "fudged" to meet requirements until modifications could be put into place affordably, and in order to afford the re-tooling, they would have to sell volumes of what was in stock. This need to sell would affect the countryside involved in production, and affect the taxes and duties due to the government, and I don't think it's too much of a stretch of the imagination to hazard that the central government was aware in a "plausibly deniable " way. This whole issue will make people wonder about the reliability of other German products, which many folk have pondered upon before this.
Who suffers?....The poor s*ds in the German population that do their work dutifully, planning on continued employment at the present capacity!....PLUS, Mrs. Merkel has seemed to have had a lapse of judgement over the migrant issue, and they just can't afford to maintain the volume financially, and it will backfire on the whole EU because Germany will need financial rebates from the EU to cope with that burden....and now this issue with cars....I think Germany's beggared in the short term, and I hope for the German people that they can recover!....
Cheers
Helen

[mikeonb4c]

Oh dear oh dear. Well at least there's Bongos.....I hope

I feel an old hippy song coming on....

[Diplomat]

I suspect that there is going to be plenty of money made out of this fiasco.

I heard on the news today that VW are going to tell their diesel using customers 'in the next few days' how they can get their vehicles sorted out. Sounds like a recall but who will pay? There's no way it will cost nothing. We could see a lot of money moving around and oiling the wheels of the economy. What a slice of luck for some while others are put to inconvenience.

From another point of view, who among us would not want to take advantage of an ECU software fix that made sure our vehicle sailed through the MOT emissions test? My first indirect experience of cheating the examiner was someone I knew swapping front motorbike wheels with a friend for the day of the test.

There must be a lot of Pharisaic disapproval of VW around at the moment.


Frank